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Ed Zittrain

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
241 total appearances

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Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

They buy massive amounts of tokens in advance.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

I think Anthropic, for example, if someone is going to do $50 million worth of tokens and it lasts over six months, they're going to take that money up front.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

They're going to say, wow, in that month, because all ARR is, is month times 12 or 13, depending on how they do it.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

So I think both OpenAI and Anthropic are inflating their numbers.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

I actually think one or both of them is misleading investors, but that's something we'll find out about in the future.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

I also fundamentally just don't see evidence outside of these two companies that anything's happening.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

The largest company within this space was Cursor, and now they've been kind of sort of not really bought by Elon Musk.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

Also, if there was so much demand, by the way, why did Elon Musk give up an entire data center to Anthropic?

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

There are enough signals here that suggest there is a fundamental weakness and

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

No real major business model here.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

We still don't know Anthropic's true burn rate, but we do know that if all of the commitments from Amazon and Google come together in this $50 billion round, it's 30, it's 50, it changes every day, it seems, they'll have raised $108 billion in the last year.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

What's going on?

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

Where is that money going?

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

And to whom is it going to other than Google, Microsoft, and Amazon?

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

So one of my simplest points as well is, other than Anthropic and OpenAI, why are there no other AI winners?

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

Why is everyone piddling around $100 to $300 million ARR, which is $10, $20, $30 million a month?

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

It's not actually that much for what is meant to be an industry-changing thingamajig.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

And there are signs that the economics don't work, the biggest being that Microsoft, GitHub Copilot, by the way, one of the largest clients of Anthropic, is moving to token-based billing on June 1st, 2026.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

They have been subsidizing tokens for their users to the tune of, I saw one person who spent $5,000 worth of API calls on a $39 a month program.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

I think this problem is across the industry.