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Ed Zittrain

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
241 total appearances

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Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

Harvey, for example, I think they've raised $900 million and they make 200, 300 million ARR.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

Ooh, those are stinky margins.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

But the point is, it's not like Harvey is buying a bunch of stuff and doing proprietary data or buying servers, like happened a lot during the dot-com bubble because AWS didn't exist, so people were buying their own servers.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

There's no useful residue.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

All of that money is being dumped directly into OpenAI and Anthropic.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

Anthropic and OpenAI also do not have assets.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

They don't have CapEx.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

They have their models.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

They have their model weights, which, by the way, Microsoft has...

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

full and complete access to OpenAI's model weights, I confirmed today.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

And so they have talent, I guess, they have research, but they don't really have, they just have their models.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

That's the only thing.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

Those companies die, there's not really any useful residue to pick up.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

Perhaps someone could buy the assets of Anthropic, even though Amazon and Google will take them, but there's not really a thing to recover.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

And then you get to the Corweaves, Nebiuses, Irons of the world.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

And again, you've got a bunch of old GPUs, probably in data centers that haven't been built yet.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

Which means that there's nothing really to pick up other than you pick up a cheap office chair or a cheap server back in the dot-com bubble.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

You could do something with that.

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

What are you going to do with a GPU?

Prof G Markets
AI Skeptic: This Business Makes No Sense

Especially when it's insanely expensive to run.