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And what is the root of that? Is it vested interest in spending that Elon is advocating gets cut? Is it diametrically opposed philosophical points of view on the role of government? What is the root anti-Elon sentiment that is kind of on the other side of the equation here, do you think?

And what is the root of that? Is it vested interest in spending that Elon is advocating gets cut? Is it diametrically opposed philosophical points of view on the role of government? What is the root anti-Elon sentiment that is kind of on the other side of the equation here, do you think?

Yeah, no, I mean, I think that you've said enough. And I guess you've seen the tweets from Elon today where he was pretty negative about the House bill that is being labeled the big, beautiful bill, making the case that it's actually going to drive up a government deficit to over $2 trillion, $2.5 trillion a year. It doesn't make deep enough cuts.

Yeah, no, I mean, I think that you've said enough. And I guess you've seen the tweets from Elon today where he was pretty negative about the House bill that is being labeled the big, beautiful bill, making the case that it's actually going to drive up a government deficit to over $2 trillion, $2.5 trillion a year. It doesn't make deep enough cuts.

There's a lot of pork in there, a lot of wasteful spending in there. And then the House speaker today responded to Elon saying, hey, we've still got a rescission bill coming. We've still got an appropriation bill coming where we're going to start to fix the budget. But clearly, Elon is now getting vocal about his point of view on this.

There's a lot of pork in there, a lot of wasteful spending in there. And then the House speaker today responded to Elon saying, hey, we've still got a rescission bill coming. We've still got an appropriation bill coming where we're going to start to fix the budget. But clearly, Elon is now getting vocal about his point of view on this.

Have you spoken with him at all about what's going on and government spending and his kind of take on things as he's walked out of the office there?

Have you spoken with him at all about what's going on and government spending and his kind of take on things as he's walked out of the office there?

You think he's going to get more vocal?

You think he's going to get more vocal?

I mean, this has been my case for about four years that if we don't fix this, it eventually becomes an intractable debt spiral. And when that happens, all of the wrangling we're doing over budget, priorities, programs, interests, jobs are no longer possible. It's like you're trying to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic.

I mean, this has been my case for about four years that if we don't fix this, it eventually becomes an intractable debt spiral. And when that happens, all of the wrangling we're doing over budget, priorities, programs, interests, jobs are no longer possible. It's like you're trying to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic.

You don't get the choice of what programs to fund when there is no funding. And that's the unfortunate iceberg we're running into. Do you think Doge is dead? any point of view on that?

You don't get the choice of what programs to fund when there is no funding. And that's the unfortunate iceberg we're running into. Do you think Doge is dead? any point of view on that?

Is there a deep state? And does the deep states, like, is it too big to break?

Is there a deep state? And does the deep states, like, is it too big to break?

Are you going to go back to space?

Are you going to go back to space?

Amazing. Well, look, you've been, if nothing, Jared, an inspiration to many. I appreciate your commitment to service, your commitment to charity, your commitment to discovery. And I want to thank you for the time today. It's been really great talking with you. Thank you.

Amazing. Well, look, you've been, if nothing, Jared, an inspiration to many. I appreciate your commitment to service, your commitment to charity, your commitment to discovery. And I want to thank you for the time today. It's been really great talking with you. Thank you.