Eddie O'Sullivan

But even if he wanted to play like Northampton, when you put Tommy Freeman in the centre, that's the end of that conversation.

Like, Tommy Freeman is no more of a centre than I'm an astronaut.

Like, let's be fair.

Like, he struggled there mentally.

But what Bortwick likes about him is very simple.

He's an incredibly powerful ball carrier.

He's like a backroom in the middle of the field.

And that's, if you look at it, that's what he's going back to.

He's going back to...

let's win this whatever way we can.

If it means running over Italy for 80 minutes, let's win by running over Italy.

I think he needs a result.

That's where I am with it.

And I think if he gets a result, it gives him a little bit of breathing space to get out of the championship in one piece, you know.

yes yes cautiously yes yeah I think so yeah about that Eddie I would cautiously say England but I wouldn't be shocked if Italy catch them yeah but I again I go back to I always go back to how important is the game for Italy and how important is it for England this could be the end of Bortwick if he was losing on Italy so it's a do or die one for him but are all the players willing to die for him you know basically there's been so many changes in the last

Yeah, I can see if you look at the outcomes for Munster, it's pretty gloomy.

They've had a bad run of form, they've lost a couple of big profile games, it's cost them their spot in Europe and it has damaged their season and it does look like they're in a bit of a downward spiral.

The other side of it, I'd be a lot more optimistic maybe than Rory about it.

I think there's a lot of good things there at the moment.

If you focus on the outcomes, yeah, it's not good.