Eddie Robertson

Yeah.

With his best mate, Robbie.

And so, yeah, like the Knights Templar Marketing, whatever.

Templar Marketing.

And, yeah, they ran a very successful business and they employed people.

And, yeah, like just not too long ago, him and Robbie folded it and decided to retire.

Yeah.

So Mac lives – but Mac was a very important male role model as I was growing up.

He never, like, sort of talked about the war so much.

Like, he never – he said, yeah, I was a soldier, I was a grunt, I was an infantryman and – And this is Vietnam War.

Vietnam, yeah, yeah, and 2RR in Vietnam and – but –

Yeah, I'll just distinctly remember he said to me once, you know, he goes, you know, mate, when you're in a hole in the ground and your life's on the line and you might be there with a bloke, you don't know where he's from or even what his surname is, but, you know, when you're in that situation and, you know, you'd do anything for him and he'd do anything for you, you know, to get out of there in one piece and watch each other's back, you know, and...

That appealed to me as a young bloke.

You know, I thought, you know, that's mateship, that's camaraderie that I hear.

You know, I used to hear my grandfather talk about the camaraderie in the Air Force and I guess that's what appealed to me to want to join the Army.

It wasn't for...

you know, chasing, you know, glory or war or anything like that.

To me it was just an adventure.

I was just a young bloke.

Yeah.