Eduardo Bolsonaro

Feared? Because he can do whatever he wants. And I'll ask you, you're going to appeal for who? There is no one higher than the Supreme Court. If they decided something, everybody is looking, okay, this is not in favor of the Constitution. He is like not caring. It doesn't matter what the law is saying. He does whatever he wants. But okay, this is illegal. What can you do? This is the problem.

Feared? Because he can do whatever he wants. And I'll ask you, you're going to appeal for who? There is no one higher than the Supreme Court. If they decided something, everybody is looking, okay, this is not in favor of the Constitution. He is like not caring. It doesn't matter what the law is saying. He does whatever he wants. But okay, this is illegal. What can you do? This is the problem.

That's why we are here. I'm not happy here debating about internal issues of Brazil, but at least we are alerting our friends here in the US and preventing them to do not let this virus, this Brazilian virus come to here. But this is the hard question. How can we fight back against someone that is doing that in the Supreme Court?

That's why we are here. I'm not happy here debating about internal issues of Brazil, but at least we are alerting our friends here in the US and preventing them to do not let this virus, this Brazilian virus come to here. But this is the hard question. How can we fight back against someone that is doing that in the Supreme Court?

We can say there is. But I can add something. During my father's administration, Marcola was transferred to another jail in the middle of the jungle. Let me say that. I think he went to Porto Velho in Rondonia. And when Lula got back again, so now we have Lula as president, I don't know how, I don't know in what terms, but this guy came back again to Brasilia. To the capital.

We can say there is. But I can add something. During my father's administration, Marcola was transferred to another jail in the middle of the jungle. Let me say that. I think he went to Porto Velho in Rondonia. And when Lula got back again, so now we have Lula as president, I don't know how, I don't know in what terms, but this guy came back again to Brasilia. To the capital.

Yes, I'm talking about the fact. I'm talking about the fact. I don't have anything that I can say, oh, this guy, he made kind of agreement with the new president. I cannot say that, but it's very strange why they should go back again with one of the head of the number one criminal organization back to Brasilia.

Yes, I'm talking about the fact. I'm talking about the fact. I don't have anything that I can say, oh, this guy, he made kind of agreement with the new president. I cannot say that, but it's very strange why they should go back again with one of the head of the number one criminal organization back to Brasilia.

2022.

2022.

Yes. He says that if the Congress does not approve a bill talking about that, so from now on, Everything that we consider, for example, homophobic, it will receive the same punishment for racism. So he says, we have a lack here in the law and the Congress is not working, he says.

Yes. He says that if the Congress does not approve a bill talking about that, so from now on, Everything that we consider, for example, homophobic, it will receive the same punishment for racism. So he says, we have a lack here in the law and the Congress is not working, he says.

But I say that the Congress does not want to approve that because no one is going to vote for abortion and they know that they do not have the majority inside of the Congress. So that's why they are doing that through the Supreme Court, just like what happened in Colombia. In Colombia now you have legal abortion that came through the hands of the justice of the Supreme Court.

But I say that the Congress does not want to approve that because no one is going to vote for abortion and they know that they do not have the majority inside of the Congress. So that's why they are doing that through the Supreme Court, just like what happened in Colombia. In Colombia now you have legal abortion that came through the hands of the justice of the Supreme Court.

But if I can add something very important about Luis Roberto Barroso. Before Alexandre de Moraes, this was the president of the Superior Electoral Court.

But if I can add something very important about Luis Roberto Barroso. Before Alexandre de Moraes, this was the president of the Superior Electoral Court.

And when we were inside of the Congress trying to approve what we call the printed vote bill, which would bring more, the possibility to recount the votes, more transparency in our electoral process, he went to the Congress and talked with 11 presidents of political parties and changed their minds so we...

And when we were inside of the Congress trying to approve what we call the printed vote bill, which would bring more, the possibility to recount the votes, more transparency in our electoral process, he went to the Congress and talked with 11 presidents of political parties and changed their minds so we...

My father was also accused of that. Of racism.

My father was also accused of that. Of racism.

It's so crazy. Can we talk about this investigation for your audience? Go for it, please. Als wir nicht korrupt sind, als sie Investitionen gegen meine Familie seit Jahren machen, Und sie finden nichts, was sie uns beurteilen. Sie gehen für das. Mein Vater fuhr mit einem Jetski. Das ist auf der Küste des Staates São Paulo. Und er beurteilt... In Europa? Ja, er fuhr mit einem Hebel.

It's so crazy. Can we talk about this investigation for your audience? Go for it, please. Als wir nicht korrupt sind, als sie Investitionen gegen meine Familie seit Jahren machen, Und sie finden nichts, was sie uns beurteilen. Sie gehen für das. Mein Vater fuhr mit einem Jetski. Das ist auf der Küste des Staates São Paulo. Und er beurteilt... In Europa? Ja, er fuhr mit einem Hebel.

Ich weiß nicht, 15 Meter, 10 Meter von einem Hebel. Das ist er. Ich denke so. Ich denke so. Aber das ist in Brasilien ein Verbrechen, dass man durch die Regel von zwei bis fünf Jahren im Gefängnis gehen kann, wenn man den Hebel zerstört. But no one applies this crime, because you have a tourist, you know, private boats get the tourists on the beach and go there to the tourists to watch the whales.

Ich weiß nicht, 15 Meter, 10 Meter von einem Hebel. Das ist er. Ich denke so. Ich denke so. Aber das ist in Brasilien ein Verbrechen, dass man durch die Regel von zwei bis fünf Jahren im Gefängnis gehen kann, wenn man den Hebel zerstört. But no one applies this crime, because you have a tourist, you know, private boats get the tourists on the beach and go there to the tourists to watch the whales.

Then Bolsonaro was doing pretty much the same thing. He was watching a whale and then he was charged, he was under investigation. And one very important thing that we have to highlight is, who made the denounce, it is the environmental minister of Lula da Silva. Her name is Marina Silva. And she tried first, I think the first DA that took the case said, okay, we do not have a crime here.

Then Bolsonaro was doing pretty much the same thing. He was watching a whale and then he was charged, he was under investigation. And one very important thing that we have to highlight is, who made the denounce, it is the environmental minister of Lula da Silva. Her name is Marina Silva. And she tried first, I think the first DA that took the case said, okay, we do not have a crime here.

Then she appealed for a second DA and the second DA started an investigation and he ordered the federal police to start an investigation about this thing. So, this was the crime. And the case was closed, right? Yeah, the case now is closed, but you have a lot of highlights.

Then she appealed for a second DA and the second DA started an investigation and he ordered the federal police to start an investigation about this thing. So, this was the crime. And the case was closed, right? Yeah, the case now is closed, but you have a lot of highlights.

Ja, sie sind fast da. Aber fast die Hälfte der Menschen, sie waren in Argentinien niedrig. Die Inflation war ungefähr 100%.

Ja, sie sind fast da. Aber fast die Hälfte der Menschen, sie waren in Argentinien niedrig. Die Inflation war ungefähr 100%.

Ja, unter der Poverty-Line. Und die Inflation war ungefähr 100%. So, and they did try all the flavors of left in the past. So, Millet was rising up as someone that, oh, okay, this guy, he has a different speech. And he is a professor, he studied economy, and he really represented the outsider soul. So that's why he got elected.

Ja, unter der Poverty-Line. Und die Inflation war ungefähr 100%. So, and they did try all the flavors of left in the past. So, Millet was rising up as someone that, oh, okay, this guy, he has a different speech. And he is a professor, he studied economy, and he really represented the outsider soul. So that's why he got elected.

And one thing that make him got elected also is because the Argentinians, they use papers to vote. Their system to vote is not like we have in Brazil, because Brazil is fully electronic. And in Argentina they use paper ballots. So this is also something that made the difference. And by the way, he's doing a great job. They don't have more eyes.

And one thing that make him got elected also is because the Argentinians, they use papers to vote. Their system to vote is not like we have in Brazil, because Brazil is fully electronic. And in Argentina they use paper ballots. So this is also something that made the difference. And by the way, he's doing a great job. They don't have more eyes.

Ich denke, Paulo Figueiredo, der hier in den USA lebt, kann diese Frage besser beantworten. Ich sage das, weil wir drei hierher müssen zurück nach Hause. Und ich bin sehr sicher, dass wir hier reden werden. Wir können da große Probleme haben. Ich werde mich erinnern, als wir zusammen in Brüssel im Europäischen Parlament darüber gesprochen haben, über die Zensur in Brasilien und all das.

Ich denke, Paulo Figueiredo, der hier in den USA lebt, kann diese Frage besser beantworten. Ich sage das, weil wir drei hierher müssen zurück nach Hause. Und ich bin sehr sicher, dass wir hier reden werden. Wir können da große Probleme haben. Ich werde mich erinnern, als wir zusammen in Brüssel im Europäischen Parlament darüber gesprochen haben, über die Zensur in Brasilien und all das.

We did great during my father's administration. It was the first time that in Brazil we had less inflation than in the United States, for example.

We did great during my father's administration. It was the first time that in Brazil we had less inflation than in the United States, for example.

Als es zurückkam, war der Federalpolizeireport, es war mein Name da, ich weiß nicht, ob es Ihr Name ist, aber jeder hier ist unter Investition. Just like Elon Musk. When Alexandre de Moraes, when he doesn't like someone, he opened an investigation against this person.

Als es zurückkam, war der Federalpolizeireport, es war mein Name da, ich weiß nicht, ob es Ihr Name ist, aber jeder hier ist unter Investition. Just like Elon Musk. When Alexandre de Moraes, when he doesn't like someone, he opened an investigation against this person.

Jewish community.

Jewish community.

Who is voicing the opinion of the billionaires?

Who is voicing the opinion of the billionaires?

I think they thought that they could control Lula, but Lula is doing everything that they did in the past. The difference is we don't have that much amount of cash or possibilities to increase the credit for the people. Because when Lula was president in the beginning of 2002 until 2010, China was buying everything. Minerals, all the soft commodities that we produce.

I think they thought that they could control Lula, but Lula is doing everything that they did in the past. The difference is we don't have that much amount of cash or possibilities to increase the credit for the people. Because when Lula was president in the beginning of 2002 until 2010, China was buying everything. Minerals, all the soft commodities that we produce.

So Lula was lucky at that time. But now after the pandemic, he doesn't have that margin to work again with existentialism and all of that. So what basically he's doing, he's spending the money as crazy because left-wing people, they do believe that the administration, the government is their responsibility to generate jobs, not the private sector.

So Lula was lucky at that time. But now after the pandemic, he doesn't have that margin to work again with existentialism and all of that. So what basically he's doing, he's spending the money as crazy because left-wing people, they do believe that the administration, the government is their responsibility to generate jobs, not the private sector.

So they are increasing the taxes, getting the money, spending more money than what they are getting. Das macht einen Rombus. Das macht einen Rombus. Das macht einen Rombus.

So they are increasing the taxes, getting the money, spending more money than what they are getting. Das macht einen Rombus. Das macht einen Rombus. Das macht einen Rombus.

He's in the hospital, but he's recovering very, very good. Because after the stab that he received during the 2018 campaign, by the way, he was stabbed by a former member of the Socialist and Liberty Party, which is extreme left in Brazil.

He's in the hospital, but he's recovering very, very good. Because after the stab that he received during the 2018 campaign, by the way, he was stabbed by a former member of the Socialist and Liberty Party, which is extreme left in Brazil.

No, no, no. He got stabbed only once, but the guy twisted the knife. The knife got into his belly 15 centimeters. And he literally almost died. Like for... Wie geht es ihm jetzt? So now he had a problem in the intestine that time after time he can face that. He can have this problem, obstruction. And then he had to go to the hospital and receive a special feeding by the nose.

No, no, no. He got stabbed only once, but the guy twisted the knife. The knife got into his belly 15 centimeters. And he literally almost died. Like for... Wie geht es ihm jetzt? So now he had a problem in the intestine that time after time he can face that. He can have this problem, obstruction. And then he had to go to the hospital and receive a special feeding by the nose.

And he is responding very good with this treatment. So I expect that tomorrow, maybe after tomorrow, he can go back home. Let me see. No, no, no. This is not...

And he is responding very good with this treatment. So I expect that tomorrow, maybe after tomorrow, he can go back home. Let me see. No, no, no. This is not...

Aber das war der Anfang, das war der Anfang.

Aber das war der Anfang, das war der Anfang.

Februar 25. Oder folgt mir auf Social Media, Bolsonaro SP.

Februar 25. Oder folgt mir auf Social Media, Bolsonaro SP.

Bevor, bevor, bevor, bevor, bevor They did go there. It shows that people still mobilize it.

Bevor, bevor, bevor, bevor, bevor They did go there. It shows that people still mobilize it.

So handsome.

So handsome.

Und das ist etwas, das wir anzeigen müssen, weil manchmal denken die Leute, dass für jede Bilder, die wir nehmen, ein Hater kommt und uns bessere Dinge zu uns spricht. Nein, nein, nein, ich kann dir sagen, dass jede 5.000 Bilder oder 10.000 Bilder, die wir nehmen, ein Mann zu dir kommt und wenn er...

Und das ist etwas, das wir anzeigen müssen, weil manchmal denken die Leute, dass für jede Bilder, die wir nehmen, ein Hater kommt und uns bessere Dinge zu uns spricht. Nein, nein, nein, ich kann dir sagen, dass jede 5.000 Bilder oder 10.000 Bilder, die wir nehmen, ein Mann zu dir kommt und wenn er...

That is a very good question. I mean, there are some issues that you cannot talk in Brazil. For example, the electoral process, you cannot talk about that. But still, he's going all the way around, all over the country, raising up his flags, our conservative flags, God, Patriot, Family and Freedom.

That is a very good question. I mean, there are some issues that you cannot talk in Brazil. For example, the electoral process, you cannot talk about that. But still, he's going all the way around, all over the country, raising up his flags, our conservative flags, God, Patriot, Family and Freedom.

And we have a strategy to overturn inside of the Electoral Court next year, because the Superior Electoral Court in Brazil is formed by seven judges. 3 of these judges, they come from the Supreme Court. So next year, these 3 judges, justices from the Supreme Court, that will be part of the Electoral Court, were the guys that were appointed by my father.

And we have a strategy to overturn inside of the Electoral Court next year, because the Superior Electoral Court in Brazil is formed by seven judges. 3 of these judges, they come from the Supreme Court. So next year, these 3 judges, justices from the Supreme Court, that will be part of the Electoral Court, were the guys that were appointed by my father.

Which does not mean that they are going to do everything in favor of my father.

Which does not mean that they are going to do everything in favor of my father.

But anyway, what I would say is we will have next year a way more balanced electoral court than the current electoral court that we have chaired by Alexandre de Morais. So maybe on the next year we can overturn den Eligibility that my father is having now.

But anyway, what I would say is we will have next year a way more balanced electoral court than the current electoral court that we have chaired by Alexandre de Morais. So maybe on the next year we can overturn den Eligibility that my father is having now.

Yeah, and if we can overturn that, my father can run on 2026. You're saying we as Congress. We ask people. We ask Bolsonaro supporters. I'm not going to lie to you. Very unlikely. Very unlike. But we have unlikely. Because the establishment do not like us. So what's your strategy?

Yeah, and if we can overturn that, my father can run on 2026. You're saying we as Congress. We ask people. We ask Bolsonaro supporters. I'm not going to lie to you. Very unlikely. Very unlike. But we have unlikely. Because the establishment do not like us. So what's your strategy?

Es ist nicht extrem links, oder? Uruguay, Argentina, Paraguay, Ecuador.

Es ist nicht extrem links, oder? Uruguay, Argentina, Paraguay, Ecuador.

Yes, my father as Trump, he doesn't follow the politically correctly. So what he thinks, he tell people. If you are going to like it or not, it's up to you.

Yes, my father as Trump, he doesn't follow the politically correctly. So what he thinks, he tell people. If you are going to like it or not, it's up to you.

Ja, er hat sogar durch seinen Kanzler Diana Mondino, sie hat getwittert, für die Ex-Mitarbeiter, die in Brasilien waren, Asyl zu bieten, weil Elon Musk sogar Nikolas Ferreira antwortete, dass wenn alle Ex-Mitarbeiter, wenn sie in einem sicheren Ort waren, Elon Musk mehr Informationen über das, was in dieser Beziehung mit Alexandre de Moraes geht. Also das ist ein Punkt.

Ja, er hat sogar durch seinen Kanzler Diana Mondino, sie hat getwittert, für die Ex-Mitarbeiter, die in Brasilien waren, Asyl zu bieten, weil Elon Musk sogar Nikolas Ferreira antwortete, dass wenn alle Ex-Mitarbeiter, wenn sie in einem sicheren Ort waren, Elon Musk mehr Informationen über das, was in dieser Beziehung mit Alexandre de Moraes geht. Also das ist ein Punkt.

He's in favor of the free speech and he's helping doing that. And now, during the flutes that we have in the south of Brazil, he also offered some structures, helicopters, if I'm not wrong, some boats. And I'm not sure if the federal government, if Lula da Silva did accept that, I'm not sure. But Uruguay was also offering some help. I'm just checking here. Yes, Argentina offered help.

He's in favor of the free speech and he's helping doing that. And now, during the flutes that we have in the south of Brazil, he also offered some structures, helicopters, if I'm not wrong, some boats. And I'm not sure if the federal government, if Lula da Silva did accept that, I'm not sure. But Uruguay was also offering some help. I'm just checking here. Yes, Argentina offered help.

Also im Februar Free Speech, Milley macht Flugzeuge, Helikopter, Boote und so weiter.

Also im Februar Free Speech, Milley macht Flugzeuge, Helikopter, Boote und so weiter.

Die Diktatorin.

Die Diktatorin.

Es ist nicht das Ende, weil als er in den Gefängnis ging, war mein Vater der Präsident der Zeit. Und mein Vater gab diesem Mann den Präsidentenverdacht. Also, als mein Vater, als er nicht wiedergeleitet wurde, He was in the prison waiting for judgment. So he was released and then he was convicted for almost 90 years in prison. You know the former prosecutor of Lula?

Es ist nicht das Ende, weil als er in den Gefängnis ging, war mein Vater der Präsident der Zeit. Und mein Vater gab diesem Mann den Präsidentenverdacht. Also, als mein Vater, als er nicht wiedergeleitet wurde, He was in the prison waiting for judgment. So he was released and then he was convicted for almost 90 years in prison. You know the former prosecutor of Lula?

Usually I say in conservative accounts that my father did not spend even one million dollars during his campaign in 2018. And I'm very conservative. I could say, I don't know, half of that. So, but it was a phenomenon.

Usually I say in conservative accounts that my father did not spend even one million dollars during his campaign in 2018. And I'm very conservative. I could say, I don't know, half of that. So, but it was a phenomenon.

Ich habe eine Frage zu diesem Thema. Verstehe die Zukunft mit der Wahl von Trump. Lass uns uns diese Möglichkeit vorstellen. Wenn Trump sich das als eine Handelskrieg gegen Brasilien anschaut, Imagine Trump saying, okay, you are banning an American company in Brazil, let's going to do the same with the Brazilian companies in the US.

Ich habe eine Frage zu diesem Thema. Verstehe die Zukunft mit der Wahl von Trump. Lass uns uns diese Möglichkeit vorstellen. Wenn Trump sich das als eine Handelskrieg gegen Brasilien anschaut, Imagine Trump saying, okay, you are banning an American company in Brazil, let's going to do the same with the Brazilian companies in the US.

I don't think so. Before becoming president?

I don't think so. Before becoming president?

No. He was famous for being on TV shows. Yes, because the reason of my father, it was in the exact moment that the strategy of the left wings was doing encourage the politically correct policies. So Mein Vater wurde verurteilt, dass er rassistisch, nazistisch, fasistisch, homophobisch war.

No. He was famous for being on TV shows. Yes, because the reason of my father, it was in the exact moment that the strategy of the left wings was doing encourage the politically correct policies. So Mein Vater wurde verurteilt, dass er rassistisch, nazistisch, fasistisch, homophobisch war.

Vor dem Rennen. Und dann hat mein Vater, er wurde nicht so viel Aufmerksamkeit dafür gegeben. Und er hat angefangen, seine Gedanken zu sprechen. Was er dachte. Und er hat angefangen, überall in der Stadt zu gehen, weil er sagte, wenn Dilma Rousseff, die nicht klug ist, und ich werde hier sehr polizistisch sein,

Vor dem Rennen. Und dann hat mein Vater, er wurde nicht so viel Aufmerksamkeit dafür gegeben. Und er hat angefangen, seine Gedanken zu sprechen. Was er dachte. Und er hat angefangen, überall in der Stadt zu gehen, weil er sagte, wenn Dilma Rousseff, die nicht klug ist, und ich werde hier sehr polizistisch sein,

The beautiful people was making fun. And then he was talking with the mass of the people.

The beautiful people was making fun. And then he was talking with the mass of the people.

The left, they have, they're a minority that speak louder. Why do they speak louder? Because they control the press, they control the unions, they control part of the politics. And on the right side, on the side that I consider myself, and the conservative are better, on the non-left side, we don't have even a political party. We don't have...

The left, they have, they're a minority that speak louder. Why do they speak louder? Because they control the press, they control the unions, they control part of the politics. And on the right side, on the side that I consider myself, and the conservative are better, on the non-left side, we don't have even a political party. We don't have...

a university or college, you don't have union, you don't have a think tank. If you look to U.S., for example, since the 70s, you have Heritage Foundation think tank, you have CPAC, you had Ronald Reagan, you have some leaderships that are very known and conservative sides. So in Brazil, we are starting to build that.

a university or college, you don't have union, you don't have a think tank. If you look to U.S., for example, since the 70s, you have Heritage Foundation think tank, you have CPAC, you had Ronald Reagan, you have some leaderships that are very known and conservative sides. So in Brazil, we are starting to build that.

So-so in their particular opinion, but the military, they do not go to politics. After 85, what happened is the left, as they control the media, mainly the media, they start to demonize the militaries. So during the 80s and 90s, you don't have a politician say, I'm a right-wing politician. This was almost forbidden.

So-so in their particular opinion, but the military, they do not go to politics. After 85, what happened is the left, as they control the media, mainly the media, they start to demonize the militaries. So during the 80s and 90s, you don't have a politician say, I'm a right-wing politician. This was almost forbidden.

The sense of democracy in Brazil that we had, it was the PT, the Liberal Party, which is extreme left, communist, like, I can tell you, AOC, Bernie Sanders, is the same kind of people that have a relationship with Lula da Silva and people from their party in Brazil. And the Social Democrats, which is center-left, This we thought it was democracy, you know?

The sense of democracy in Brazil that we had, it was the PT, the Liberal Party, which is extreme left, communist, like, I can tell you, AOC, Bernie Sanders, is the same kind of people that have a relationship with Lula da Silva and people from their party in Brazil. And the Social Democrats, which is center-left, This we thought it was democracy, you know?

But then when my father start to appear in the national scenario, they say, oh, wait a minute, this is not right. Right is Jair Bolsonaro or more to the right here. So we changed the spectrum of Brazil. And it's that sense, it's so true what I'm talking because in the previous election, you had the social Democrat, Geraldo Alckmin, running for president.

But then when my father start to appear in the national scenario, they say, oh, wait a minute, this is not right. Right is Jair Bolsonaro or more to the right here. So we changed the spectrum of Brazil. And it's that sense, it's so true what I'm talking because in the previous election, you had the social Democrat, Geraldo Alckmin, running for president.

He was calling Lula da Silva from the Labor Party as a thief, as a criminal. Now, guess what? The vice president of Lula da Silva is this guy, Geraldo Alckmin. And they don't even have a shame because of that. So my father, it was disruptive. It's like, you know, the king is naked, My father was the one saying, oh, the king is naked.

He was calling Lula da Silva from the Labor Party as a thief, as a criminal. Now, guess what? The vice president of Lula da Silva is this guy, Geraldo Alckmin. And they don't even have a shame because of that. So my father, it was disruptive. It's like, you know, the king is naked, My father was the one saying, oh, the king is naked.

And everybody starts to pay attention about what is going on, mainly because now, after 2010, you have a new content in this political scenario, which it is internet. With the internet, we break the monopoly of the mainstream media and we start to bring in more information. As you know, that's why they are trying to regulate and democratize the internet and social media.

And everybody starts to pay attention about what is going on, mainly because now, after 2010, you have a new content in this political scenario, which it is internet. With the internet, we break the monopoly of the mainstream media and we start to bring in more information. As you know, that's why they are trying to regulate and democratize the internet and social media.

But in the end of the day, we all know that they want to control the narrative because they lost that.

But in the end of the day, we all know that they want to control the narrative because they lost that.

This is a deep story, professor, that we can talk.

This is a deep story, professor, that we can talk.

You described yourself as center right. Yes, I'll put right. Why not? People sometimes say, oh, far, far, far right. Yeah, well, that's... Far right for me is other thing because what Lula and the communists, they want, they want to control the economy 100%. We want, what is the opposite of control the economy 100%? is when you do not have any kind of administration. It's anarcho-capitalist.

You described yourself as center right. Yes, I'll put right. Why not? People sometimes say, oh, far, far, far right. Yeah, well, that's... Far right for me is other thing because what Lula and the communists, they want, they want to control the economy 100%. We want, what is the opposite of control the economy 100%? is when you do not have any kind of administration. It's anarcho-capitalist.

We are not anarcho-capitalist. We believe in a minimum size of the administration. We don't wanna destroy the administration. We need the government to rule some things, and you have to be very sensitive when you talk about that, to do not go far away. What is rule something? For example, you have the right to go and back to your home to the work.

We are not anarcho-capitalist. We believe in a minimum size of the administration. We don't wanna destroy the administration. We need the government to rule some things, and you have to be very sensitive when you talk about that, to do not go far away. What is rule something? For example, you have the right to go and back to your home to the work.

All right, you drive your car, but you cannot drive your car on the wrong way because you are going to put in risk other people's life, crashing other people's car. So to somehow rule these kind of situations and the situations where the individual cannot do, for example, Everybody knows that, have the sense that kill each other is a wrong thing, all right? Everybody believe in that.

All right, you drive your car, but you cannot drive your car on the wrong way because you are going to put in risk other people's life, crashing other people's car. So to somehow rule these kind of situations and the situations where the individual cannot do, for example, Everybody knows that, have the sense that kill each other is a wrong thing, all right? Everybody believe in that.

We should not be a society where everybody's killing everybody. So we need police. We need somehow defend our territory from other countries, because maybe you have in our neighborhood a dictatorship that want to invade your country.

We should not be a society where everybody's killing everybody. So we need police. We need somehow defend our territory from other countries, because maybe you have in our neighborhood a dictatorship that want to invade your country.

If you look nowadays to Ukraine and Russia, to Venezuela and Guyana, Maduro saying that he wants to get the territory of Ezequiel and some other parts of the world, makes sense that you need an army. So to defend your country, preserve your culture, to have a civilization on the streets, police, and one or two points, You need the state, you need the administration.

If you look nowadays to Ukraine and Russia, to Venezuela and Guyana, Maduro saying that he wants to get the territory of Ezequiel and some other parts of the world, makes sense that you need an army. So to defend your country, preserve your culture, to have a civilization on the streets, police, and one or two points, You need the state, you need the administration.

We, I consider myself classical conservative. Okay. But I'm very friend, for example, of the classical liberal when you talk about economy. Because if you go to Brazil and you say, I'm a liberal, they are not going to link you with the left. They're going to link you with the right. Okay, that's what I was wondering. Liberal here,

We, I consider myself classical conservative. Okay. But I'm very friend, for example, of the classical liberal when you talk about economy. Because if you go to Brazil and you say, I'm a liberal, they are not going to link you with the left. They're going to link you with the right. Okay, that's what I was wondering. Liberal here,

is people who want to control your life, control the free speech on social media, want a huge administration, increase the taxes. Right, liberal here increasingly means progressive, right? And that means left. Liberal in Brazil is less taxes, free market. Yeah, okay. And the difference between our liberals and me, who in the position of conservative, it'll be about maybe drugs.

is people who want to control your life, control the free speech on social media, want a huge administration, increase the taxes. Right, liberal here increasingly means progressive, right? And that means left. Liberal in Brazil is less taxes, free market. Yeah, okay. And the difference between our liberals and me, who in the position of conservative, it'll be about maybe drugs.

They want to have a more flexible rules about drugs. I'm against to open, you know, to have more flexibility on the drug law, for example, the regulations. But you have some, as in Brazil, we are deep in a moral crisis. This is not a priority.

They want to have a more flexible rules about drugs. I'm against to open, you know, to have more flexibility on the drug law, for example, the regulations. But you have some, as in Brazil, we are deep in a moral crisis. This is not a priority.

The priority is to rescue our country, to people believe again that we can have an administration that take care of the people, take care not, look to the people. Because the current president, what he's doing, he's increasing the taxes, travel all around the world.

The priority is to rescue our country, to people believe again that we can have an administration that take care of the people, take care not, look to the people. Because the current president, what he's doing, he's increasing the taxes, travel all around the world.

Like the first year of Lula da Silva as president of Brazil, he spent more than two months outside of Brazil, spending a little bit more than $200,000 daily when he's traveling outside of Brazil. He's staying in the most expensive hotels, you know, and... When he come back to Brazil, he start to tax people.

Like the first year of Lula da Silva as president of Brazil, he spent more than two months outside of Brazil, spending a little bit more than $200,000 daily when he's traveling outside of Brazil. He's staying in the most expensive hotels, you know, and... When he come back to Brazil, he start to tax people.

We have, for example, usually people in Brazil, when you buy something, mainly from China, and it's less than $50, the product that you are buying, you do not pay any kind of tax. And usually poor people or middle class, they do that. Lula is taxing even this kind of situation. And he spent more money than my father, Jair Bolsonaro, when he was president during the pandemic.

We have, for example, usually people in Brazil, when you buy something, mainly from China, and it's less than $50, the product that you are buying, you do not pay any kind of tax. And usually poor people or middle class, they do that. Lula is taxing even this kind of situation. And he spent more money than my father, Jair Bolsonaro, when he was president during the pandemic.

Imagine, how can someone spend more money than the other president during the pandemic? So that's why the price of the American dollars in Brazil is exploding and the numbers of the economy are not that good. Still, Lula da Silva, he had... a situation where he's receiving a lot of benefit from the previous administration because we privatized a lot, we reduced a lot of taxes.

Imagine, how can someone spend more money than the other president during the pandemic? So that's why the price of the American dollars in Brazil is exploding and the numbers of the economy are not that good. Still, Lula da Silva, he had... a situation where he's receiving a lot of benefit from the previous administration because we privatized a lot, we reduced a lot of taxes.

We became the number four in the world when you talk about receiving foreign investments. We are doing very good. It was the first time in history that Brazil, we had less inflation than United States. Because we had a liberal, classical liberal economy ministry called Paulo Guedes, who received 100% of autonomy from the president, from my father, to do his work.

We became the number four in the world when you talk about receiving foreign investments. We are doing very good. It was the first time in history that Brazil, we had less inflation than United States. Because we had a liberal, classical liberal economy ministry called Paulo Guedes, who received 100% of autonomy from the president, from my father, to do his work.

Because my father, he knows his place. He said, I'm not an economist. Right. But I will appoint someone that can do the homework as never seen in Brazil. It was the first time since 1985 that we had a liberal, a Chicago boy, in the ministry of economy ministry. like with the possibility to do his work.

Because my father, he knows his place. He said, I'm not an economist. Right. But I will appoint someone that can do the homework as never seen in Brazil. It was the first time since 1985 that we had a liberal, a Chicago boy, in the ministry of economy ministry. like with the possibility to do his work.

All right, so keeping this story, in 2014, I was elected, 82,224 votes. And in my first term, I was looking to my father, increasing his popularity, going every place in Brazil, like usually on Thursday, he traveled to a different state, coming back to the capital in Brasilia on Friday. So traveling every week, almost every week, all around Brazil, talking about- Still as a congressman.

All right, so keeping this story, in 2014, I was elected, 82,224 votes. And in my first term, I was looking to my father, increasing his popularity, going every place in Brazil, like usually on Thursday, he traveled to a different state, coming back to the capital in Brasilia on Friday. So traveling every week, almost every week, all around Brazil, talking about- Still as a congressman.

Yeah, still as a congressman.

Yeah, still as a congressman.

Oh yes, okay. So when someone says that you are racist, so okay, why am I racist? I do not support affirmative action for black people because in Brazil, since when the Portuguese arrived in Brazil in the year 1500, they start to mix with the Indians. Then the blacks and we are all mixed. You didn't go to Brazil.

Oh yes, okay. So when someone says that you are racist, so okay, why am I racist? I do not support affirmative action for black people because in Brazil, since when the Portuguese arrived in Brazil in the year 1500, they start to mix with the Indians. Then the blacks and we are all mixed. You didn't go to Brazil.

You can look to someone and say, oh, you look European, you look Latin, you look Indian, you look black. we don't have this issue as strong as you have here in United States. So if you consider, if you vote against affirmative action for black people in Brazil, because we will have black people very rich in Brazil, they say that you label you as a racist.

You can look to someone and say, oh, you look European, you look Latin, you look Indian, you look black. we don't have this issue as strong as you have here in United States. So if you consider, if you vote against affirmative action for black people in Brazil, because we will have black people very rich in Brazil, they say that you label you as a racist.

For example, there was a bill in Brazil that if you look for the bill, you can clearly see that pastors could go to jail if they read part of the Bible. Is it fair? No, this is unfair. So when he positioned against this kind of bill, people say, you are homophobic. But in the end of the day, going to, why was so important he travel all around Brazil?

For example, there was a bill in Brazil that if you look for the bill, you can clearly see that pastors could go to jail if they read part of the Bible. Is it fair? No, this is unfair. So when he positioned against this kind of bill, people say, you are homophobic. But in the end of the day, going to, why was so important he travel all around Brazil?

Because when you go to some states, they have a local press and they do not receive a public money. So when you talk in a radio, you're talking with a maid, with a trucker driver, with, you know, regular common people. Or directly. And they listening to Jerry Bolsonaro, they say, this guy is not crazy. It's not the crazy guy that CNN tells me that is crazy. This guy, I agree with him.

Because when you go to some states, they have a local press and they do not receive a public money. So when you talk in a radio, you're talking with a maid, with a trucker driver, with, you know, regular common people. Or directly. And they listening to Jerry Bolsonaro, they say, this guy is not crazy. It's not the crazy guy that CNN tells me that is crazy. This guy, I agree with him.

So when the election came on 2018, aside of this work, also with the increase of internet, smartphone, social media, my father became a phenomenon. It was fashion, you know, support him. And thanks God, the left, the establishment, they were all the time saying that he was so ridiculous that he would never be the president. But he became elected in 2018.

So when the election came on 2018, aside of this work, also with the increase of internet, smartphone, social media, my father became a phenomenon. It was fashion, you know, support him. And thanks God, the left, the establishment, they were all the time saying that he was so ridiculous that he would never be the president. But he became elected in 2018.

And at that time, I ran for my first election.

And at that time, I ran for my first election.

And when... The right feeling is he was fed up with the Congress. Like, you are only one in the middle of 513... federal representatives, you don't have the power to do whatever you want. You can do bills, but to approve a bill is very different. He was looking a radical left-wing administration ruling the country, deeply into corruption scandals all the time.

And when... The right feeling is he was fed up with the Congress. Like, you are only one in the middle of 513... federal representatives, you don't have the power to do whatever you want. You can do bills, but to approve a bill is very different. He was looking a radical left-wing administration ruling the country, deeply into corruption scandals all the time.

And he started to think, if Dilma Rousseff get elected, reelected, Dilma Rousseff is a former president of Brazil, same party of Lula da Silva, the current president, Labor's party. If Dilma Rousseff who cannot connect one phrase with other phrase, pretty much the same opinion that people have from Kamala Harris here, why not me? And my father, he's really hardworking, really hardworking.

And he started to think, if Dilma Rousseff get elected, reelected, Dilma Rousseff is a former president of Brazil, same party of Lula da Silva, the current president, Labor's party. If Dilma Rousseff who cannot connect one phrase with other phrase, pretty much the same opinion that people have from Kamala Harris here, why not me? And my father, he's really hardworking, really hardworking.

Still nowadays, he's almost 70 years old and he's every time traveling, every time. I really admire him because I don't know if I, I'm 40, if I could have the same energy of my father to do all of the work that he does. So he starts to think, if Dilma Rousseff did that, why not me? Why I can't be the president? So he starts to go for that. He had a plan, all right? He has a project.

Still nowadays, he's almost 70 years old and he's every time traveling, every time. I really admire him because I don't know if I, I'm 40, if I could have the same energy of my father to do all of the work that he does. So he starts to think, if Dilma Rousseff did that, why not me? Why I can't be the president? So he starts to go for that. He had a plan, all right? He has a project.

He starts to go around, not saying that he's going to be the president, but... After this work, people start to realize that he could be a president.

He starts to go around, not saying that he's going to be the president, but... After this work, people start to realize that he could be a president.

Yeah, Brazil is a... is a little bit, it's different from Canada because it's presidentialism, not parliamentarism, and different from US because here who win in the state get all the votes of the delegates. In Brazil, every vote counts. Every voter, every people count. If you have more than 18 years old, you vote. From 18 until 70 years old is mandatory. You have to vote.

Yeah, Brazil is a... is a little bit, it's different from Canada because it's presidentialism, not parliamentarism, and different from US because here who win in the state get all the votes of the delegates. In Brazil, every vote counts. Every voter, every people count. If you have more than 18 years old, you vote. From 18 until 70 years old is mandatory. You have to vote.

If you do not vote, you pay a fee. You are fined in $1. It's not a big deal, but it still is mandatory. And every country votes. So we are 210 million people living in Brazil. I guess around nowadays 130, 140 million people in Brazil, they are able to vote. So you have to go all over the country. Here, I know the presidential candidates, they usually look

If you do not vote, you pay a fee. You are fined in $1. It's not a big deal, but it still is mandatory. And every country votes. So we are 210 million people living in Brazil. I guess around nowadays 130, 140 million people in Brazil, they are able to vote. So you have to go all over the country. Here, I know the presidential candidates, they usually look

Their focus is on the swing states, not in Brazil. In Brazil, you have to be everywhere, everywhere, which makes a little bit harder. You need more energy to do your campaign. And in 2018, my father did his campaign basically with a cell phone. I can tell you, my father didn't spend, to be very conservative in my accounts, he didn't even spend $1 million in his campaign.

Their focus is on the swing states, not in Brazil. In Brazil, you have to be everywhere, everywhere, which makes a little bit harder. You need more energy to do your campaign. And in 2018, my father did his campaign basically with a cell phone. I can tell you, my father didn't spend, to be very conservative in my accounts, he didn't even spend $1 million in his campaign.

Thank you.

Thank you.

This is how powerful was the support in favor of Jair Bolsonaro. He, his flags, defend the family, get back again the patriotism, reduce the size of the administration, respect the kids, no gender ideology in the schools, support the law enforcement, get the criminals to the jail, like as much time as you can send them to the jail. So it's the opposite of the left.

This is how powerful was the support in favor of Jair Bolsonaro. He, his flags, defend the family, get back again the patriotism, reduce the size of the administration, respect the kids, no gender ideology in the schools, support the law enforcement, get the criminals to the jail, like as much time as you can send them to the jail. So it's the opposite of the left.

When you say that all of these flags, the left, they say, no, no, no, we need gender ideology, we need to respect everybody, and all of this narrative that they start to build. But the mainstream media all the time was labeling my father, like racist, xenophobic, you don't like poor people, you don't like women, you don't like black, you don't like no one.

When you say that all of these flags, the left, they say, no, no, no, we need gender ideology, we need to respect everybody, and all of this narrative that they start to build. But the mainstream media all the time was labeling my father, like racist, xenophobic, you don't like poor people, you don't like women, you don't like black, you don't like no one.

It's even funny because in the end of the day, I don't even know if someone like that exists. And people through mainly by internet, the social media of my father was controlled by my brother, Carlos. The message that we gave to the people is this message.

It's even funny because in the end of the day, I don't even know if someone like that exists. And people through mainly by internet, the social media of my father was controlled by my brother, Carlos. The message that we gave to the people is this message.

It also happens in Brazil.

It also happens in Brazil.

Is it the same in Brazil? It's the same situation. But I have to go back to 2018. We had way more freedom. Like, no one... Nowadays, I can guarantee to you that sometimes people think, maybe even right on X... but they do not post that to not have problems with the Supreme Court. Right, right, we'll get into that.

Is it the same in Brazil? It's the same situation. But I have to go back to 2018. We had way more freedom. Like, no one... Nowadays, I can guarantee to you that sometimes people think, maybe even right on X... but they do not post that to not have problems with the Supreme Court. Right, right, we'll get into that.

And I'll tell you how I can make you believe that my father didn't spend even $1 million and almost all of the campaign we did through the social media is because he got elected in 2018 and he took office on January of 2019.

And I'll tell you how I can make you believe that my father didn't spend even $1 million and almost all of the campaign we did through the social media is because he got elected in 2018 and he took office on January of 2019.

Since 2019, the Supreme Court of Brazil, they opened an investigation called the Fake News Investigation, trying to prove that Jair Bolsonaro, he had kind of AI or an office fitted with public money to destroy the reputation of the journalists and the reputation of the communists and all the other players in the election. since 2019, we are in 2024, this investigation is still open.

Since 2019, the Supreme Court of Brazil, they opened an investigation called the Fake News Investigation, trying to prove that Jair Bolsonaro, he had kind of AI or an office fitted with public money to destroy the reputation of the journalists and the reputation of the communists and all the other players in the election. since 2019, we are in 2024, this investigation is still open.

They just turned our life towards, they just did everything that I can do in terms of investigation against my family, against my father, the federal police, went to my father's house to take his vaccine card. It's funny, this is other things that we have to talk about. The accusations that they say, the accusations against us, And still, they cannot prove.

They just turned our life towards, they just did everything that I can do in terms of investigation against my family, against my father, the federal police, went to my father's house to take his vaccine card. It's funny, this is other things that we have to talk about. The accusations that they say, the accusations against us, And still, they cannot prove.

See, one of the things... We do not believe all could build a narrative to destroy us. Yeah, yeah. Nowadays, the reality is just a piece of something. Yeah. Reality doesn't matter. The matter is the narrative that they build inside of the mind of the people. Because in the end of the day, the elite, the radical left, they are smart enough.

See, one of the things... We do not believe all could build a narrative to destroy us. Yeah, yeah. Nowadays, the reality is just a piece of something. Yeah. Reality doesn't matter. The matter is the narrative that they build inside of the mind of the people. Because in the end of the day, the elite, the radical left, they are smart enough.

They knew that we won the elections doing everything that we did in social media, traveling all over the country, because the majority part of Brazil, they're conservative.

They knew that we won the elections doing everything that we did in social media, traveling all over the country, because the majority part of Brazil, they're conservative.

Yes, yes. And the thing that makes us kind of special is because my father, he has authenticity. He is original. He's pretty much like Trump. He first, he do not stop to think, oh, I'm going to speak that. Is it good or bad? Let me do it this way. No, no, no. They think they talk. It doesn't matter, is it going to hurt you? It's your problem. Sorry if you are so sensitive.

Yes, yes. And the thing that makes us kind of special is because my father, he has authenticity. He is original. He's pretty much like Trump. He first, he do not stop to think, oh, I'm going to speak that. Is it good or bad? Let me do it this way. No, no, no. They think they talk. It doesn't matter, is it going to hurt you? It's your problem. Sorry if you are so sensitive.

So people start to trust you. You open a live streaming. I remember that when a new scandal against my father, oh, he's a racist, oh, he's this and that. When something show up, the first thing that he does is open a live streaming and start to talk about that openly. That's why people trust on him.

So people start to trust you. You open a live streaming. I remember that when a new scandal against my father, oh, he's a racist, oh, he's this and that. When something show up, the first thing that he does is open a live streaming and start to talk about that openly. That's why people trust on him.

You know, all the other politicians, before a speaker should do an interview, the first thing that they do, they go to someone in the, or one of the assistants, oh, you are from the market. Should I say that? Right. Am I going to earn more votes saying this or that? And then they call the press for a conference and do a beautiful speech. So we are on the other way.

You know, all the other politicians, before a speaker should do an interview, the first thing that they do, they go to someone in the, or one of the assistants, oh, you are from the market. Should I say that? Right. Am I going to earn more votes saying this or that? And then they call the press for a conference and do a beautiful speech. So we are on the other way.

If you look for the social media of my father, you are going to see that most part of the videos are, low-cost videos. You don't need a cell phone to do that. It's not something beautiful with content and edited. So these things makes you connect with the people. For example, one of the things they always try to say is that, oh, Jerry Bolsonaro, he's not Rumble.

If you look for the social media of my father, you are going to see that most part of the videos are, low-cost videos. You don't need a cell phone to do that. It's not something beautiful with content and edited. So these things makes you connect with the people. For example, one of the things they always try to say is that, oh, Jerry Bolsonaro, he's not Rumble.

Like he wear soccer team jerseys to pretend to be someone popular. But my father is the same in front of the cameras and behind of the cameras. And in the end of the day, people realize that. There was a very special case when he was president right in the beginning of the pandemic.

Like he wear soccer team jerseys to pretend to be someone popular. But my father is the same in front of the cameras and behind of the cameras. And in the end of the day, people realize that. There was a very special case when he was president right in the beginning of the pandemic.

where you had people on the beaches of Rio de Janeiro getting arrested because the whole city was in a lockdown, very strong lockdown. So it was forbidden to you, get out of your house, basically like that, like in Canada. And you have some videos of one or two ladies on the beach and the cops going there to arrest these people.

where you had people on the beaches of Rio de Janeiro getting arrested because the whole city was in a lockdown, very strong lockdown. So it was forbidden to you, get out of your house, basically like that, like in Canada. And you have some videos of one or two ladies on the beach and the cops going there to arrest these people.

And in a meeting of the president, my father, Jair Bolsonaro, with his ministries, he's talking like using very bad and very strong words. Why is not the justice ministry talking about this kind of issue? Drug dealers cannot be arrested like that. Why ladies on the beach getting D-vitamin are going to be in jail because of that? And at this meeting,

And in a meeting of the president, my father, Jair Bolsonaro, with his ministries, he's talking like using very bad and very strong words. Why is not the justice ministry talking about this kind of issue? Drug dealers cannot be arrested like that. Why ladies on the beach getting D-vitamin are going to be in jail because of that? And at this meeting,

Sure. Francis, great honor to be here with you, Professor. Sure, after your trip to Brazil, you know that Brazilians usually love you, because your courage and your background, the issues about Canada, even that made you to move yourself to US, we have the same problem in Brazil.

Sure. Francis, great honor to be here with you, Professor. Sure, after your trip to Brazil, you know that Brazilians usually love you, because your courage and your background, the issues about Canada, even that made you to move yourself to US, we have the same problem in Brazil.

he with his ministers, it was recorded, but not for the public. How people watched that? Because the Supreme Court, I think one year after all of that, God gave an order to the president. Hey, President Bolsonaro, we want the video of your meetings with the ministries. And he gave. For the lucky of my father, expecting to give in the first hand the breaking news to the people.

he with his ministers, it was recorded, but not for the public. How people watched that? Because the Supreme Court, I think one year after all of that, God gave an order to the president. Hey, President Bolsonaro, we want the video of your meetings with the ministries. And he gave. For the lucky of my father, expecting to give in the first hand the breaking news to the people.

Oh, look, President Bolsonaro talking bad words. Look how bad he is behind the scenes. This is Bolsonaro. CNN broadcast the video live before see that. And in fact, you have my father talking bad words for the justice ministry to some of the people like around him in our White House. You know what? People loved it. People just loved. People said, Bolsonaro just got reelected because of this video.

Oh, look, President Bolsonaro talking bad words. Look how bad he is behind the scenes. This is Bolsonaro. CNN broadcast the video live before see that. And in fact, you have my father talking bad words for the justice ministry to some of the people like around him in our White House. You know what? People loved it. People just loved. People said, Bolsonaro just got reelected because of this video.

Because people see that this is the president that I voted for, defending people. Come on, who judges think they are? Who you think the cops think they are to arrest some ladies on the beach? I remember, I remind that that day, I was in Sao Paulo and I do surf. I went to the sea to surf. And people came to me, other surfers came to me, oh, Bolsonaro, because I'm also a federal congressman.

Because people see that this is the president that I voted for, defending people. Come on, who judges think they are? Who you think the cops think they are to arrest some ladies on the beach? I remember, I remind that that day, I was in Sao Paulo and I do surf. I went to the sea to surf. And people came to me, other surfers came to me, oh, Bolsonaro, because I'm also a federal congressman.

Bolsonaro, your father, he's the best. People start to accomplish me on the water. This is not common. Usually surfers, when they go to the water, maybe you can talk with one or other, but it's not common you gather in the water, you know, with others. So it was proven that Bolsonaro is the same one in front of the cameras and behind of the cameras.

Bolsonaro, your father, he's the best. People start to accomplish me on the water. This is not common. Usually surfers, when they go to the water, maybe you can talk with one or other, but it's not common you gather in the water, you know, with others. So it was proven that Bolsonaro is the same one in front of the cameras and behind of the cameras.

Nowadays you hide that.

Nowadays you hide that.

But starting from your question before we go deep in all of this culture war and culture issues, my name is Eduardo Bolsonaro. I'm 40 years old. I have two kids, one of four, my daughter, she has four years old, and I have a boy of one. I'm very well married with Eloisa, who let me to be here. And I'm the third son of the former president of Brazil, Jair Bolsonaro. Before I talk about...

But starting from your question before we go deep in all of this culture war and culture issues, my name is Eduardo Bolsonaro. I'm 40 years old. I have two kids, one of four, my daughter, she has four years old, and I have a boy of one. I'm very well married with Eloisa, who let me to be here. And I'm the third son of the former president of Brazil, Jair Bolsonaro. Before I talk about...

Four years. Four years. So he was... If I may, professor, excuse me. I want to open a parenthesis. One month before the election, he also got stabbed in the belly during the campaign. This is very important to say because he was almost killed by a former member of the Socialist and Liberty Party, PSOL. This party in Brazil is radical left. They are connected.

Four years. Four years. So he was... If I may, professor, excuse me. I want to open a parenthesis. One month before the election, he also got stabbed in the belly during the campaign. This is very important to say because he was almost killed by a former member of the Socialist and Liberty Party, PSOL. This party in Brazil is radical left. They are connected.

They have a lot of pictures and trips here to U.S. to have meetings with AOC, Bernie Sanders, and this kind of people, who is the radical left part of the Democratic Party. The name of the guy who stabbed my father, his name is Adélio Bispo. My father was on the streets campaigning with a crowd of 20,000 or 30,000 people around him in the city of Juiz de Fora.

They have a lot of pictures and trips here to U.S. to have meetings with AOC, Bernie Sanders, and this kind of people, who is the radical left part of the Democratic Party. The name of the guy who stabbed my father, his name is Adélio Bispo. My father was on the streets campaigning with a crowd of 20,000 or 30,000 people around him in the city of Juiz de Fora.

One of the securities of my father put a hand on his shoulders. So you have videos on YouTube everywhere. And the guy came with a knife, jumped and stabbed my father, twisted a little bit, and the knife got into the belly of my father, 15 centimeters, and cutting some parts of his intestine. At that time, in the moment that it happened, you could not see too much blood there.

One of the securities of my father put a hand on his shoulders. So you have videos on YouTube everywhere. And the guy came with a knife, jumped and stabbed my father, twisted a little bit, and the knife got into the belly of my father, 15 centimeters, and cutting some parts of his intestine. At that time, in the moment that it happened, you could not see too much blood there.

You can see that there was a cut and their security ran into a hospital with him. In the hospital, the doctors identified that he was with internal hemorrhage. He lost about 2.5 liters of blood. He died twice. And he went to the surgery. And you have a lot of these... more than two liters of blood together with, how can I say that politely in English, with shit.

You can see that there was a cut and their security ran into a hospital with him. In the hospital, the doctors identified that he was with internal hemorrhage. He lost about 2.5 liters of blood. He died twice. And he went to the surgery. And you have a lot of these... more than two liters of blood together with, how can I say that politely in English, with shit.

Which makes you think, oh, so for sure he had an infection after that. Like, it's a miracle he survived. The doctor said two more minutes on the way to the hospital, two more minutes delay, he's done. He would be out of blood to the heart to bomb.

Which makes you think, oh, so for sure he had an infection after that. Like, it's a miracle he survived. The doctor said two more minutes on the way to the hospital, two more minutes delay, he's done. He would be out of blood to the heart to bomb.

about the recent political scenario, it's very important to remark that Brazil, we lived from 64 until 1985, a military regime that started avoiding Brazil to turn itself as Cuba because we had, at that time, a communist president that was trying to bring Brazil to the same situation of Cuba.

about the recent political scenario, it's very important to remark that Brazil, we lived from 64 until 1985, a military regime that started avoiding Brazil to turn itself as Cuba because we had, at that time, a communist president that was trying to bring Brazil to the same situation of Cuba.

When he arrived in the hospital in the emergency, he had exactly the specialist, medical specialist required for this kind of situation, which is very rare in Brazil. He has a gastro...

When he arrived in the hospital in the emergency, he had exactly the specialist, medical specialist required for this kind of situation, which is very rare in Brazil. He has a gastro...

medical doctor for that part the securities of my father also uh he they know exactly the way to the closers hospital right so the driver was a local that knew the fastest way to arrive in the hospital and one day before my father he had a problem in the throat And a friend, Gilson Machado, which is our former tourism minister, he gave a medicine to my father, an antibiotic to my father.

medical doctor for that part the securities of my father also uh he they know exactly the way to the closers hospital right so the driver was a local that knew the fastest way to arrive in the hospital and one day before my father he had a problem in the throat And a friend, Gilson Machado, which is our former tourism minister, he gave a medicine to my father, an antibiotic to my father.

Bolsonaro, you are feeling sick a little bit on the throat. Yeah, but you're campaigning, you know, you cannot wait. It comes. it become worse to receive an antibiotic. Take this pill with the antibiotic. So my father start to have antibiotic. So this is, I think, what prevented to get infection because there's a lot of blood with feces inside of his body.

Bolsonaro, you are feeling sick a little bit on the throat. Yeah, but you're campaigning, you know, you cannot wait. It comes. it become worse to receive an antibiotic. Take this pill with the antibiotic. So my father start to have antibiotic. So this is, I think, what prevented to get infection because there's a lot of blood with feces inside of his body.

So he survived that, but more than 70% of the time of the campaign, in Brazil we have 45 days that you can campaign. More than 70% of this period of time, my father was in a hospital. So he could not go to the streets, running all over the country, delivering his message to run, to do a presidential campaign. And still he got elected. This is very important.

So he survived that, but more than 70% of the time of the campaign, in Brazil we have 45 days that you can campaign. More than 70% of this period of time, my father was in a hospital. So he could not go to the streets, running all over the country, delivering his message to run, to do a presidential campaign. And still he got elected. This is very important.

This is also very important to say because people do a lot of, they compare with the Trump situation after the shooting case right next to his head. And it's one more things that Trump have in common with my father. So after that, he got elected and I also became the most voted ever federal representative, most vote ever federal representative in the history of Brazil. Now, he did or you did?

This is also very important to say because people do a lot of, they compare with the Trump situation after the shooting case right next to his head. And it's one more things that Trump have in common with my father. So after that, he got elected and I also became the most voted ever federal representative, most vote ever federal representative in the history of Brazil. Now, he did or you did?

I did. You did. I did for the Congress. He did as president. I received almost 2 million votes. In my first campaign, my first election in 2014, 82,000. 2018, almost 2 million. So it was a huge message for all of the country. Our party became very strong. We were in a very small party that we had only three congressmen. After the 2018 election, we became 52.

I did. You did. I did for the Congress. He did as president. I received almost 2 million votes. In my first campaign, my first election in 2014, 82,000. 2018, almost 2 million. So it was a huge message for all of the country. Our party became very strong. We were in a very small party that we had only three congressmen. After the 2018 election, we became 52.

And nowadays, after the 22 elections, we are almost 100. congressmen in my party. So it shows that the wave is still increasing. It's not, oh, Bolsonaro lost the election and okay, the movement is over. No, no, no, the movement is still strong. And the only way that the legacy media, for example, sees to control us is controlling the narrative with the new bills against the free speech.

And nowadays, after the 22 elections, we are almost 100. congressmen in my party. So it shows that the wave is still increasing. It's not, oh, Bolsonaro lost the election and okay, the movement is over. No, no, no, the movement is still strong. And the only way that the legacy media, for example, sees to control us is controlling the narrative with the new bills against the free speech.

Yeah, one month before the election of 2018.

Yeah, one month before the election of 2018.

Yeah, 2022, it was the election that my father wanted for re-election, but he lost. Right, and it was a month before that that he was almost killed. No, in 2018.

Yeah, 2022, it was the election that my father wanted for re-election, but he lost. Right, and it was a month before that that he was almost killed. No, in 2018.

Then I have to take care about my words because in Brazil, depending on what you talk, you can be considered anti-democratic. to talk to the Americans here that are watching us. Remember that Trump in Georgia, the mugshot, because he was talking about the election process.

Then I have to take care about my words because in Brazil, depending on what you talk, you can be considered anti-democratic. to talk to the Americans here that are watching us. Remember that Trump in Georgia, the mugshot, because he was talking about the election process.

So people on the street with the support of the Catholic church and some other sectors of our society approved to the Congress to impeach this president. And then we start to have a period of time from 64 until 85 electing Indirectly, because in these elections, the senators and the congressmen voted for president only, not the popular vote, only the Congress voting.

So people on the street with the support of the Catholic church and some other sectors of our society approved to the Congress to impeach this president. And then we start to have a period of time from 64 until 85 electing Indirectly, because in these elections, the senators and the congressmen voted for president only, not the popular vote, only the Congress voting.

But you have a bunch of videos of Hillary Clinton and some other people from the Democratic Party saying that they do not trust in the election. Maybe the 2016 election wasn't 100% trustable. But with Trump, things change. So with us, things change in Brazil too. And we have a target. on our heads, so I have to take care about what I'm going to say to not have problems when I come back home.

But you have a bunch of videos of Hillary Clinton and some other people from the Democratic Party saying that they do not trust in the election. Maybe the 2016 election wasn't 100% trustable. But with Trump, things change. So with us, things change in Brazil too. And we have a target. on our heads, so I have to take care about what I'm going to say to not have problems when I come back home.

In 2022 elections, there are Two theories. One theory is the machines that we use to vote, because in Brazil it's fully electronic. You go to a machine developed by the government and you dial the number of your candidates. For example, the number of my father was 22. Our party number is 22. So you want to vote for Bolsonaro, you dial 22 and press the green button. Boom. That's it.

In 2022 elections, there are Two theories. One theory is the machines that we use to vote, because in Brazil it's fully electronic. You go to a machine developed by the government and you dial the number of your candidates. For example, the number of my father was 22. Our party number is 22. So you want to vote for Bolsonaro, you dial 22 and press the green button. Boom. That's it.

And then you pray for God that someone in the capital, the bureaucrats are going to count your vote properly. But you do not receive, you don't have a way to recount that. You don't have a way to audit that. You know, you just go home and that's it. Pretty much like in Venezuela. In Venezuela, they have a similar system of Brazil.

And then you pray for God that someone in the capital, the bureaucrats are going to count your vote properly. But you do not receive, you don't have a way to recount that. You don't have a way to audit that. You know, you just go home and that's it. Pretty much like in Venezuela. In Venezuela, they have a similar system of Brazil.

And in 2022, I'm not going to talk about... We also have to be careful about discussing such things here, and it's more a consequence of lawsuits.

And in 2022, I'm not going to talk about... We also have to be careful about discussing such things here, and it's more a consequence of lawsuits.

With that said, back to the election. I'll not talk about the story, all right? Let's say that our machine is 100% fully trustable. Yeah. But still, in Brazil, who organize the elections? Who coordinate the elections? Who judge everything about the elections in Brazil? is a court called Superior Electoral Court. I will say only electoral court, referring myself to this court.

With that said, back to the election. I'll not talk about the story, all right? Let's say that our machine is 100% fully trustable. Yeah. But still, in Brazil, who organize the elections? Who coordinate the elections? Who judge everything about the elections in Brazil? is a court called Superior Electoral Court. I will say only electoral court, referring myself to this court.

Who is on the head of this court? Who is the president, the chairman of this electoral court? Is a justice from the Supreme Court. His name is Alexandre de Moraes. On 2022, it was Alexandre de Moraes. This is the name that I would like you to save on your mind, Alexandre de Moraes. This man, he has a personal problem with my father and with our family.

Who is on the head of this court? Who is the president, the chairman of this electoral court? Is a justice from the Supreme Court. His name is Alexandre de Moraes. On 2022, it was Alexandre de Moraes. This is the name that I would like you to save on your mind, Alexandre de Moraes. This man, he has a personal problem with my father and with our family.

He did a lot of interventions in the executive power and sometimes even in the legislative, in the Congress. And he was- It was during your father's administration. Yes. During my father's administration, we had a lot of conflicts with him. So he was on the head of this electoral court.

He did a lot of interventions in the executive power and sometimes even in the legislative, in the Congress. And he was- It was during your father's administration. Yes. During my father's administration, we had a lot of conflicts with him. So he was on the head of this electoral court.

So this electoral court, you had ridiculous decisions such as my father could not open a live streaming from his cell phone at his house. Why they say that? Because all the other candidates, they do not have a house, a public house, paid with public money. Because when you are president, you live in the White House. Who pay the rent of the White House?

So this electoral court, you had ridiculous decisions such as my father could not open a live streaming from his cell phone at his house. Why they say that? Because all the other candidates, they do not have a house, a public house, paid with public money. Because when you are president, you live in the White House. Who pay the rent of the White House?

Who pay the energy and the water of the White House? Is a taxpayer. So the reason that they found to avoid Jair Bolsonaro, Jair Bolsonaro was forbidden to broadcast from his house. So if he would like to start live streaming from his Facebook, He would get a car, get out of his house, and start a live streaming.

Who pay the energy and the water of the White House? Is a taxpayer. So the reason that they found to avoid Jair Bolsonaro, Jair Bolsonaro was forbidden to broadcast from his house. So if he would like to start live streaming from his Facebook, He would get a car, get out of his house, and start a live streaming.

But every five years, a new president, a military general president during this period of time. So after 85, we get back again with the democracy that we have nowadays and start to elect new presidents as pretty much as like in United States. And during this period of time, my father, in the end of the 80s, he was a army captain. So I born in 84, 1984.

But every five years, a new president, a military general president during this period of time. So after 85, we get back again with the democracy that we have nowadays and start to elect new presidents as pretty much as like in United States. And during this period of time, my father, in the end of the 80s, he was a army captain. So I born in 84, 1984.

This is a point to understand how ridiculous was the decision during this period of time. And more than that, we could not say some words to define our oppositor, Lula da Silva. There is a... The number one conservative media in Brazil is called Jovem Pan.

This is a point to understand how ridiculous was the decision during this period of time. And more than that, we could not say some words to define our oppositor, Lula da Silva. There is a... The number one conservative media in Brazil is called Jovem Pan.

Jovem Pan, they received an order saying that they cannot refer, the journalists of Jovem Pan could not say that Lula is a criminal, is a thief, or that he was unconvicted from the convictions that he had in the past. Because Lula da Silva, the current president, the Supreme Court, he was convicted for laundering money and corruption in the past.

Jovem Pan, they received an order saying that they cannot refer, the journalists of Jovem Pan could not say that Lula is a criminal, is a thief, or that he was unconvicted from the convictions that he had in the past. Because Lula da Silva, the current president, the Supreme Court, he was convicted for laundering money and corruption in the past.

But two years before the election, they overturned all of that and let Lula da Silva run for president. And all of the establishment was in favor of his election, very clearly. So this is how the election happened in Brazil. So I can tell you, even if you believe that our machines that we use to vote is 100% okay, 100% trustable, it wasn't a fair election.

But two years before the election, they overturned all of that and let Lula da Silva run for president. And all of the establishment was in favor of his election, very clearly. So this is how the election happened in Brazil. So I can tell you, even if you believe that our machines that we use to vote is 100% okay, 100% trustable, it wasn't a fair election.

Because basically- How close was the margin? is that my father made 49.1 or 2%, Lula made 49.51.

Because basically- How close was the margin? is that my father made 49.1 or 2%, Lula made 49.51.

Yes, and you have some more other things that I could add. For example, the most left-wing states that we have, they were voting even after 5 p.m. on Sunday. Because in our election, everybody go to vote at the same day. The first Sunday of October, you have to vote. from 8 a.m. until 5 p.m., all right? After that, it's closed. No one, anyone else can vote anymore.

Yes, and you have some more other things that I could add. For example, the most left-wing states that we have, they were voting even after 5 p.m. on Sunday. Because in our election, everybody go to vote at the same day. The first Sunday of October, you have to vote. from 8 a.m. until 5 p.m., all right? After that, it's closed. No one, anyone else can vote anymore.

But in the States, where they have the majority in favor of the left-wing politicians, the state of Bahia and some other states on the northeast of Brazil, which is the major part of the Brazilians receive assistentialism from the government to survive, In these states, people were voting 6, 7, 8 p.m. And some million more votes were added in the election.

But in the States, where they have the majority in favor of the left-wing politicians, the state of Bahia and some other states on the northeast of Brazil, which is the major part of the Brazilians receive assistentialism from the government to survive, In these states, people were voting 6, 7, 8 p.m. And some million more votes were added in the election.

So what I can say, and I cannot prove to be very honest, professor, what I can say is in Brazil, The people who sit on the desks, taking the idea of the people and letting them go vote, most part of these people, they know each other because they are the same people, election after election, who are there on the school, the sessions, on the electoral sessions, receiving people to vote.

So what I can say, and I cannot prove to be very honest, professor, what I can say is in Brazil, The people who sit on the desks, taking the idea of the people and letting them go vote, most part of these people, they know each other because they are the same people, election after election, who are there on the school, the sessions, on the electoral sessions, receiving people to vote.

So if everybody's left wing, if you do not have morals, you are not... left-wing usually, politicians of left-wing did not care about values or morals, you can say, oh, okay, let's see the list who did not vote yet, and let's go vote in their names. It can happen. So if you stop people to vote after 5 p.m., as is the electoral law require us to be,

So if everybody's left wing, if you do not have morals, you are not... left-wing usually, politicians of left-wing did not care about values or morals, you can say, oh, okay, let's see the list who did not vote yet, and let's go vote in their names. It can happen. So if you stop people to vote after 5 p.m., as is the electoral law require us to be,

it will be way more transparency, way more trust about our election. I'm telling you that you have a lot of way to do frauds.

it will be way more transparency, way more trust about our election. I'm telling you that you have a lot of way to do frauds.

The main thing that people comply about my father is that he talks too much. But I mean, it's the opinion of the people. We usually say that, okay, are you voting for president or you want a boyfriend or a girlfriend? You know, he talks too much, but the economy is going good. The criminals are having a very tough time with my father. You know, regular citizens, they are having a better life.

The main thing that people comply about my father is that he talks too much. But I mean, it's the opinion of the people. We usually say that, okay, are you voting for president or you want a boyfriend or a girlfriend? You know, he talks too much, but the economy is going good. The criminals are having a very tough time with my father. You know, regular citizens, they are having a better life.

You have less bureaucracy. You can take care of your life. You know, a lot of benefits. But the press all the time, they are doing some kind of notorious scandal because, depending of what my father was used to say, because he has no future, sometimes getting out of his house, he stop and start to talk with the people, with the press around, and use non-politically correct words.

You have less bureaucracy. You can take care of your life. You know, a lot of benefits. But the press all the time, they are doing some kind of notorious scandal because, depending of what my father was used to say, because he has no future, sometimes getting out of his house, he stop and start to talk with the people, with the press around, and use non-politically correct words.

My father was an army captain and two older brothers than me. And in the end of the 80s, my father had some problems inside of the army because he was complaining about the salary of the militaries, and he did not have the permission of his superiors to do interviews. So he did an interview for a famous magazine in Brazil and he became very famous.

My father was an army captain and two older brothers than me. And in the end of the 80s, my father had some problems inside of the army because he was complaining about the salary of the militaries, and he did not have the permission of his superiors to do interviews. So he did an interview for a famous magazine in Brazil and he became very famous.

and it became a scandal. In the end of the day, you can affect, talking that so much every day, it affects people, and maybe you change your priorities.

and it became a scandal. In the end of the day, you can affect, talking that so much every day, it affects people, and maybe you change your priorities.

The reputation outside of Brazil is bad. If you go to Europe, people will think that my father is the evil.

The reputation outside of Brazil is bad. If you go to Europe, people will think that my father is the evil.

Well, and I would say, like... He's burning Amazon. Right, right.

Well, and I would say, like... He's burning Amazon. Right, right.

And that's why Brazil is important to the United States, because we are the lab. The ideas usually come from here. and they apply in Brazil. So why Americans showed penetration in Brazil? Because we have a unique thing when I talk about censorship is because everywhere in the world, it comes through the hands of the president, of the prime minister.

And that's why Brazil is important to the United States, because we are the lab. The ideas usually come from here. and they apply in Brazil. So why Americans showed penetration in Brazil? Because we have a unique thing when I talk about censorship is because everywhere in the world, it comes through the hands of the president, of the prime minister.

For example, you have big issues with Trudeau or with the C-16 law and whatever, but in Brazil, is the Supreme Court.

For example, you have big issues with Trudeau or with the C-16 law and whatever, but in Brazil, is the Supreme Court.

Yes.

Yes.

Explain that. Alexandre de Moraes, he was the chairman of the Electoral Court, and he was too aggressive in the 2022 elections, mainly. In the 2022 elections, what happened? Around 100 conservative profiles on Twitter got blocked. To be blocked in Brazil, our law says that you need to give to the other side, to the users, their right to defend himself.

Explain that. Alexandre de Moraes, he was the chairman of the Electoral Court, and he was too aggressive in the 2022 elections, mainly. In the 2022 elections, what happened? Around 100 conservative profiles on Twitter got blocked. To be blocked in Brazil, our law says that you need to give to the other side, to the users, their right to defend himself.

But because of that, as he didn't have the permission of the superiors, he went 15 days in jail, in the military jail. And to calm down the situation, he ran for city council in Rio de Janeiro in 1988. Because when you do that, you receive three months off in the army. And I'm not sure if he did expect to get elected, but he did get elected city council of Rio de Janeiro in 1988.

But because of that, as he didn't have the permission of the superiors, he went 15 days in jail, in the military jail. And to calm down the situation, he ran for city council in Rio de Janeiro in 1988. Because when you do that, you receive three months off in the army. And I'm not sure if he did expect to get elected, but he did get elected city council of Rio de Janeiro in 1988.

And the platform has 48 hours to block someone. This is general law in Brazil. What was happening in Brazil is Alexandre de Moraes was ordering Twitter and some other platforms, I guess, because I'm not that dumb to think it was happening only for Twitter. Right, right. So he was addressing orders to Twitter saying, block these and that people in one hour.

And the platform has 48 hours to block someone. This is general law in Brazil. What was happening in Brazil is Alexandre de Moraes was ordering Twitter and some other platforms, I guess, because I'm not that dumb to think it was happening only for Twitter. Right, right. So he was addressing orders to Twitter saying, block these and that people in one hour.

If you don't do that, I will fine you in... It was, I can tell you, around $20,000, $30,000 to start. It was a huge fine, you know, daily, daily, if you do not accomplish with his orders. But the main thing is, Alexandre de Moraes ordered, according with Glenn Greenwald, the journalist, articles that came up a couple of months ago. Alexandre de Moraes was...

If you don't do that, I will fine you in... It was, I can tell you, around $20,000, $30,000 to start. It was a huge fine, you know, daily, daily, if you do not accomplish with his orders. But the main thing is, Alexandre de Moraes ordered, according with Glenn Greenwald, the journalist, articles that came up a couple of months ago. Alexandre de Moraes was...

saying to Twitter platform, do not tell the users that are getting blocked that this order is coming from me. Oh, yeah. This is key because during 2022 elections, Brazilians got pissed off with Twitter. Because you get your cell phone and then there is a black screen saying you were blocked because you violated one of our internal policies. Sure, sure.

saying to Twitter platform, do not tell the users that are getting blocked that this order is coming from me. Oh, yeah. This is key because during 2022 elections, Brazilians got pissed off with Twitter. Because you get your cell phone and then there is a black screen saying you were blocked because you violated one of our internal policies. Sure, sure.

And then you say, but what post did I do that makes me be blocked in the platform? You don't know. These are the candidates you're speaking of? No, everybody in general. So this was happening quite broadly? You have candidates, you have regular people, you have influencers, you have YouTubers like...

And then you say, but what post did I do that makes me be blocked in the platform? You don't know. These are the candidates you're speaking of? No, everybody in general. So this was happening quite broadly? You have candidates, you have regular people, you have influencers, you have YouTubers like...

Luciano Hang, for example, who is a very strong supporter of my father, he's a billionaire, he got blocked in this situation. So you are getting outside. Imagine in the United States, you are going to run for president and you cannot see what Tucker Carlson, Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, what they are posting or producing on their platforms. This was the situation in Brazil.

Luciano Hang, for example, who is a very strong supporter of my father, he's a billionaire, he got blocked in this situation. So you are getting outside. Imagine in the United States, you are going to run for president and you cannot see what Tucker Carlson, Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, what they are posting or producing on their platforms. This was the situation in Brazil.

So I'm adding one more factor.

So I'm adding one more factor.

Yes. And Elon, he bought Twitter right between the first and the second round of the Brazilian election in October of 2022. That's why we know all of that nowadays. One year ago, we would be still pissed off at Twitter. But why? Elon Musk started a fight, I don't know, months ago, with Alexandre de Moraes. Alexandre de Moraes, he has, this justice of the Supreme Court, he has a Twitter account.

Yes. And Elon, he bought Twitter right between the first and the second round of the Brazilian election in October of 2022. That's why we know all of that nowadays. One year ago, we would be still pissed off at Twitter. But why? Elon Musk started a fight, I don't know, months ago, with Alexandre de Moraes. Alexandre de Moraes, he has, this justice of the Supreme Court, he has a Twitter account.

And he was talking about something, posting his opinion or whatever about something. And then Elon come, and commented, why are you demanding so much censorship in Brazil? Boom, then the things start. The chairman of the Justice Committee of the House of the US Congress, Mr. Jim Jordan,

And he was talking about something, posting his opinion or whatever about something. And then Elon come, and commented, why are you demanding so much censorship in Brazil? Boom, then the things start. The chairman of the Justice Committee of the House of the US Congress, Mr. Jim Jordan,

He asked Elon Musk to give all the emails changed with the Brazilian authorities during the 2022 election period of time. Oh, yeah. With these emails, now that we know, after the report of Jim Jordan in the U.S. Congress, if you have around 500 pages in this report, you'll know. that Alexandre de Moraes, I mean, the electoral court was sending emails to Twitter saying to block people.

He asked Elon Musk to give all the emails changed with the Brazilian authorities during the 2022 election period of time. Oh, yeah. With these emails, now that we know, after the report of Jim Jordan in the U.S. Congress, if you have around 500 pages in this report, you'll know. that Alexandre de Moraes, I mean, the electoral court was sending emails to Twitter saying to block people.

And some of the people, for example, the journalist Paulo Figueiredo, he only knew why he was blocked in 2022 looking to these reports. So this is the level of censorship that we had. And this is the problem because this is not only about Brazil. Oh, that's for sure. Europe authorities, Alexandre de Moraes and some other authorities of Brazil They do speeches in Paris, in London, in New York.

And some of the people, for example, the journalist Paulo Figueiredo, he only knew why he was blocked in 2022 looking to these reports. So this is the level of censorship that we had. And this is the problem because this is not only about Brazil. Oh, that's for sure. Europe authorities, Alexandre de Moraes and some other authorities of Brazil They do speeches in Paris, in London, in New York.

They are spreading the virus. And you have some press articles saying that some of the European authority, they were looking closely this fight between Alexandre de Moraes and Elon Musk to copy to Europe.

They are spreading the virus. And you have some press articles saying that some of the European authority, they were looking closely this fight between Alexandre de Moraes and Elon Musk to copy to Europe.

Because what happened, now I would talk with the Americans that don't know this story deeply. I'm talking about Twitter, Elon Musk against Alexandre de Moraes, right?

Because what happened, now I would talk with the Americans that don't know this story deeply. I'm talking about Twitter, Elon Musk against Alexandre de Moraes, right?

And then 1990, he run for congressman, so federal representative, got elected. And every four years, he stayed 28 years inside of the Congress getting reelected, mainly through the votes of the militaries and their families. So in this situation, there is a very key point around 2010, I can tell you, where the politically correct in Brazil starts to increase a lot. Around 2010.

And then 1990, he run for congressman, so federal representative, got elected. And every four years, he stayed 28 years inside of the Congress getting reelected, mainly through the votes of the militaries and their families. So in this situation, there is a very key point around 2010, I can tell you, where the politically correct in Brazil starts to increase a lot. Around 2010.

Because as Brazil, we have this special case because the censorship is coming through the hands of one of the justices of the Supreme Court. And also, Alexandre de Moraes fined Twitter And the first response of Twitter is that they're not going to pay this fine. But after one month, they paid to get back again Twitter in Brazil because they were banned.

Because as Brazil, we have this special case because the censorship is coming through the hands of one of the justices of the Supreme Court. And also, Alexandre de Moraes fined Twitter And the first response of Twitter is that they're not going to pay this fine. But after one month, they paid to get back again Twitter in Brazil because they were banned.

So the Europeans, authorities, like the woke people, the progressive, they were enjoying that. Wait a minute. So if we do that through the hands of the courts, maybe we can control Elon Musk and force them to censorship whoever I want. So this is the point. And what I would say that was shocking is that to do that, Alexandre de Moraes not only banned Twitter,

So the Europeans, authorities, like the woke people, the progressive, they were enjoying that. Wait a minute. So if we do that through the hands of the courts, maybe we can control Elon Musk and force them to censorship whoever I want. So this is the point. And what I would say that was shocking is that to do that, Alexandre de Moraes not only banned Twitter,

he threatened to arrest the Twitter team in Brazil.

he threatened to arrest the Twitter team in Brazil.

So that's why he thanks president of Argentina, Javier Mele. He offered asylum to this kind of people. They said, publicly, through Twitter, if the Brazilians want to come to Argentina, they are more than welcome because here we do preserve the freedom and the free speech and all of that. So thank you, Javier Mele, the greatest president of Latin America by far.

So that's why he thanks president of Argentina, Javier Mele. He offered asylum to this kind of people. They said, publicly, through Twitter, if the Brazilians want to come to Argentina, they are more than welcome because here we do preserve the freedom and the free speech and all of that. So thank you, Javier Mele, the greatest president of Latin America by far.

And the second thing is Alexandre de Moraes freezed some of the resources of Starlink. But Starlink wasn't in the dispute.

And the second thing is Alexandre de Moraes freezed some of the resources of Starlink. But Starlink wasn't in the dispute.

Because Elon is not the owner of Starlink. He has, I guess, 42% of the company, but he's not the owner. You have way other people around in the same company. Details, details, details, yeah. And Bill Ackman, some other billionaires, they start to complain, wait, wait, wait. this thing of the Brazilian Supreme Court is too far. You know, it's too much power on only one person's hands.

Because Elon is not the owner of Starlink. He has, I guess, 42% of the company, but he's not the owner. You have way other people around in the same company. Details, details, details, yeah. And Bill Ackman, some other billionaires, they start to complain, wait, wait, wait. this thing of the Brazilian Supreme Court is too far. You know, it's too much power on only one person's hands.

And it can be very dangerous because we know how dictatorship starts. And when they start, usually they have support of part of the people. But on the next day, the supporters will be the target of the dictator. That's for sure. In all the dictatorships, it happens. Yeah. And this is...

And it can be very dangerous because we know how dictatorship starts. And when they start, usually they have support of part of the people. But on the next day, the supporters will be the target of the dictator. That's for sure. In all the dictatorships, it happens. Yeah. And this is...

one of the things that are happening in this dispute with Twitter, and that's also why the US Congress, they are giving their attention to Brazil. And nowadays, we have a bill from their representative, Maria Ovira Salazar from Florida, It was approved in the committees of the House and is ready to be voted from the House. We only need that the chairman, Mike Johnson, to put that to be vote.

one of the things that are happening in this dispute with Twitter, and that's also why the US Congress, they are giving their attention to Brazil. And nowadays, we have a bill from their representative, Maria Ovira Salazar from Florida, It was approved in the committees of the House and is ready to be voted from the House. We only need that the chairman, Mike Johnson, to put that to be vote.

And this bill says that if any foreigner authority do not respect the First Amendment of an American citizen outside of U.S., they will lose their visa to come to U.S. The country? Yeah, yeah. For example, if a Brazilian authority do not respect the free speech of Elon Musk or any other American, he is not able to come into and enter United States. He will lose his visa.

And this bill says that if any foreigner authority do not respect the First Amendment of an American citizen outside of U.S., they will lose their visa to come to U.S. The country? Yeah, yeah. For example, if a Brazilian authority do not respect the free speech of Elon Musk or any other American, he is not able to come into and enter United States. He will lose his visa.

So this bill, we hope that is going to be approved in the House Because after that, I'm sure that the US administration, even more with Trump, I'm always supporting Trump, that it can be applied, fully applied. It's a way to avoid this kind of authority because they have too much power. They are doing whatever they want, even with American companies.

So this bill, we hope that is going to be approved in the House Because after that, I'm sure that the US administration, even more with Trump, I'm always supporting Trump, that it can be applied, fully applied. It's a way to avoid this kind of authority because they have too much power. They are doing whatever they want, even with American companies.

Yeah, around this year. And my father, he did an interview and it got, I think it was his first viral interview on internet where he's talking about a situation in a jail in Brazil. There was a jail in Brazil. The name of the jail is Pedrinhas Jail. In this jail, criminals start to kill each other.

Yeah, around this year. And my father, he did an interview and it got, I think it was his first viral interview on internet where he's talking about a situation in a jail in Brazil. There was a jail in Brazil. The name of the jail is Pedrinhas Jail. In this jail, criminals start to kill each other.

And come on, Twitter is following all of the American and US law. Why? Brazilians are, the Brazilian Supreme Court is banning Twitter outside of Brazil. So it's a way to force people to respect the law. If the Brazilian authorities, if they were respecting the law- Right, well, the war, you know, the war is really going to be

And come on, Twitter is following all of the American and US law. Why? Brazilians are, the Brazilian Supreme Court is banning Twitter outside of Brazil. So it's a way to force people to respect the law. If the Brazilian authorities, if they were respecting the law- Right, well, the war, you know, the war is really going to be

When they are appointed for the Supreme Court, the president appoints the candidate for the Supreme Court, and the Senate, after a sabbatin, approves the name of the person. So in 2017, Alexandre de Moraes took office in the Supreme Court as a justice of the Supreme Court, and he will stay there until he completes 75 years old. So by the year of 2040-something, he will retire. I see.

When they are appointed for the Supreme Court, the president appoints the candidate for the Supreme Court, and the Senate, after a sabbatin, approves the name of the person. So in 2017, Alexandre de Moraes took office in the Supreme Court as a justice of the Supreme Court, and he will stay there until he completes 75 years old. So by the year of 2040-something, he will retire. I see.

So a long time. Unless he wants to resign.

So a long time. Unless he wants to resign.

The one immediately before your father. And the curious thing is, it wasn't a radical left president. It was pretty much a central right president, Michel Temer, who appointed him. No one would expect Alexandre de Moraes would do things like he's doing nowadays. I see, I see. And how do you explain it? It's establishment.

The one immediately before your father. And the curious thing is, it wasn't a radical left president. It was pretty much a central right president, Michel Temer, who appointed him. No one would expect Alexandre de Moraes would do things like he's doing nowadays. I see, I see. And how do you explain it? It's establishment.

His mission was take Bolsonaro out of power and end with this spontaneous movement created not only by my father, because my father is the political leader of this right-wing conservative movement, but on the philosophy part, you have other key men that unfortunately last year passed away, Professor Olavo de Carvalho. I don't know if you've ever listened about him. He was used to live in Virginia.

His mission was take Bolsonaro out of power and end with this spontaneous movement created not only by my father, because my father is the political leader of this right-wing conservative movement, but on the philosophy part, you have other key men that unfortunately last year passed away, Professor Olavo de Carvalho. I don't know if you've ever listened about him. He was used to live in Virginia.

several books, very smart. And he is the one who, on the philosophy side, was giving the arguments and also forming new leaders to be on key positions in Brazil to sustain this right, not right-wing movement, but this movement in favor of the morals, in favor of the honesty and what- Well, we could call it conservative. Yes, yes. You can call him as a conservative.

several books, very smart. And he is the one who, on the philosophy side, was giving the arguments and also forming new leaders to be on key positions in Brazil to sustain this right, not right-wing movement, but this movement in favor of the morals, in favor of the honesty and what- Well, we could call it conservative. Yes, yes. You can call him as a conservative.

So it was Olavo de Carvalho on the philosophy side and my father on the political side converging to the same target, if I can say that. So the... The willing of, as I can see, of Alexandre de Moraes is to end with this movement leaded by my father.

So it was Olavo de Carvalho on the philosophy side and my father on the political side converging to the same target, if I can say that. So the... The willing of, as I can see, of Alexandre de Moraes is to end with this movement leaded by my father.

And my father was running to be the chairman of the Human Rights Committee in the Congress, in the House. and a lot of microphones around him, and journalists start to do some dumb questions and trying to say, oh, don't you care about the life of the prisoners? They are prisoners. It's a human life. And he said, come on, you don't want to go to the jail?

And my father was running to be the chairman of the Human Rights Committee in the Congress, in the House. and a lot of microphones around him, and journalists start to do some dumb questions and trying to say, oh, don't you care about the life of the prisoners? They are prisoners. It's a human life. And he said, come on, you don't want to go to the jail?

Sure, yes, because if you... If you do not have social media anymore, the monopoly of information will go back against the mainstream media.

Sure, yes, because if you... If you do not have social media anymore, the monopoly of information will go back against the mainstream media.

But you see, you are right. Sorry, Professor. No, no. You are right, like, but... shadow ban would not be a problem. If you have other companies on social media, alternative companies, the problem is in Brazil, rumble is not in Brazil. See, they left Brazil after do not accomplish if some of the orders of Alexandre de Moraes, they said, I'm out.

But you see, you are right. Sorry, Professor. No, no. You are right, like, but... shadow ban would not be a problem. If you have other companies on social media, alternative companies, the problem is in Brazil, rumble is not in Brazil. See, they left Brazil after do not accomplish if some of the orders of Alexandre de Moraes, they said, I'm out.

I cannot survive in a country where they do not have free speech because free speech is a value that we care here in rumble. So they left the country just like X left a little bit after rumble. And YouTube is the way that you were talking. Shadow ban, doing this, doing that, reducing the voice of the conservatives.

I cannot survive in a country where they do not have free speech because free speech is a value that we care here in rumble. So they left the country just like X left a little bit after rumble. And YouTube is the way that you were talking. Shadow ban, doing this, doing that, reducing the voice of the conservatives.

And sometimes you watch a Trump video and then the suggested of the next video is a video of Hillary Clinton talking some things. Yeah. But if you have the freedom to have a new social media, it will be okay. Then I have to talk again. Remember when Trump was kicked out from Twitter in January of 2021? I don't know if it happened here. It also happened in North America.

And sometimes you watch a Trump video and then the suggested of the next video is a video of Hillary Clinton talking some things. Yeah. But if you have the freedom to have a new social media, it will be okay. Then I have to talk again. Remember when Trump was kicked out from Twitter in January of 2021? I don't know if it happened here. It also happened in North America.

But in Brazil, people start to run to two other platforms, Parler and Getter. Getter, the CEO of Getter is Mr. Jason Miller, who is together with Trump taking care of the market of his campaign, helping Trump in his campaign. Jason Miller in 2021 went to Brazil to do a speech in the CPEC Brazil. I do organize the CPEC in Brazil. It's the largest gathering of the conservatives all around the world.

But in Brazil, people start to run to two other platforms, Parler and Getter. Getter, the CEO of Getter is Mr. Jason Miller, who is together with Trump taking care of the market of his campaign, helping Trump in his campaign. Jason Miller in 2021 went to Brazil to do a speech in the CPEC Brazil. I do organize the CPEC in Brazil. It's the largest gathering of the conservatives all around the world.

We have the Brazilian version. Right, right. After doing his speech, he went back to the airport And guess what? Alexandre de Moraes ordered the federal police to go there and detain Jason Miller. Jason Miller, an American citizen, stayed almost four hours in a Brazilian airport because the federal police officers wanted him to sign some papers written in Portuguese.

We have the Brazilian version. Right, right. After doing his speech, he went back to the airport And guess what? Alexandre de Moraes ordered the federal police to go there and detain Jason Miller. Jason Miller, an American citizen, stayed almost four hours in a Brazilian airport because the federal police officers wanted him to sign some papers written in Portuguese.

It's just to do not rob, do not murder, do not kidnap anyone else, and start to say some bad words because it was very explosive. And this interview came very viral. And at that time, I was in the federal police. I'm a lawyer. And I was in the federal police. My first service was on the border between Brazil and Bolivia. And then I moved myself. I was transferred to Sao Paulo.

It's just to do not rob, do not murder, do not kidnap anyone else, and start to say some bad words because it was very explosive. And this interview came very viral. And at that time, I was in the federal police. I'm a lawyer. And I was in the federal police. My first service was on the border between Brazil and Bolivia. And then I moved myself. I was transferred to Sao Paulo.

He said, I don't know Portuguese. What is written there? They called someone from the street to do the translation. And Jason Miller said, am I under investigation? Am I a testimony? What is going on here? So after some time, a lawyer come, helped Jason Miller. He didn't sign nothing, but it was embarrassing, this situation.

He said, I don't know Portuguese. What is written there? They called someone from the street to do the translation. And Jason Miller said, am I under investigation? Am I a testimony? What is going on here? So after some time, a lawyer come, helped Jason Miller. He didn't sign nothing, but it was embarrassing, this situation.

So Alexandre de Moraes, he has a personal fight against Elon Musk and against Jason Miller, two people that are pretty close of Trump. So maybe Alexandre de Moraes is having a conflict with really big guys.

So Alexandre de Moraes, he has a personal fight against Elon Musk and against Jason Miller, two people that are pretty close of Trump. So maybe Alexandre de Moraes is having a conflict with really big guys.

Because when you affect a billionaire like Elon Musk, some other billionaires are going to talk about it and have an idea that Alexandre de Moraes is not fighting to preserve democracy, but is truly doing the opposite of that, killing democracy. Because to preserve our constitution, you need to violate the constitution. you're not preserving any constitution anymore.

Because when you affect a billionaire like Elon Musk, some other billionaires are going to talk about it and have an idea that Alexandre de Moraes is not fighting to preserve democracy, but is truly doing the opposite of that, killing democracy. Because to preserve our constitution, you need to violate the constitution. you're not preserving any constitution anymore.

And I think this is getting clearer and clearer to all of the rest of the world. So I expect here, professor, in the great audience that you have in your podcast, to prevent our friends from Europe, Latin America, North America, to do not copy the model of Brazilian censorship.

And I think this is getting clearer and clearer to all of the rest of the world. So I expect here, professor, in the great audience that you have in your podcast, to prevent our friends from Europe, Latin America, North America, to do not copy the model of Brazilian censorship.

How is that?

How is that?

But during that time, in 2014, I asked my father, hey, father, I see you most, like almost alone in some of the debates that you face inside of the Congress. Would you support me to run for the Congress? So maybe instead of only one congressman, we could be two. And he supported me. I ran from the state of Sao Paulo.

But during that time, in 2014, I asked my father, hey, father, I see you most, like almost alone in some of the debates that you face inside of the Congress. Would you support me to run for the Congress? So maybe instead of only one congressman, we could be two. And he supported me. I ran from the state of Sao Paulo.

I think it's for the first time in history here in the US, people trust more in the Congress than the mainstream media.

I think it's for the first time in history here in the US, people trust more in the Congress than the mainstream media.

I received a little bit more than 82,000 votes because in Brazil, when you vote for someone, you vote in the state. and actually go to the House. So in the state of Sao Paulo, I received 82,000 votes, and we spent a little bit less than around $10,000 in my campaign. So he financed my campaign too. And I became a congressman.

I received a little bit more than 82,000 votes because in Brazil, when you vote for someone, you vote in the state. and actually go to the House. So in the state of Sao Paulo, I received 82,000 votes, and we spent a little bit less than around $10,000 in my campaign. So he financed my campaign too. And I became a congressman.

I don't know the source. I have a friend, he's a journalist here, and he told me, I do not remember the source, but he said, this is fantastic. In Brazil, we have a lot of people that still believe and follow our legacy media over there, but the numbers of this credibility is going down.

I don't know the source. I have a friend, he's a journalist here, and he told me, I do not remember the source, but he said, this is fantastic. In Brazil, we have a lot of people that still believe and follow our legacy media over there, but the numbers of this credibility is going down.

No. They're used to control the narrative and they don't know how to do.

No. They're used to control the narrative and they don't know how to do.

You have to fire all the crew, all the team.

You have to fire all the crew, all the team.

No. Okay. But who could stop the Supreme Court is the Senate. But the chairman of the Senate, he already said, Rodrigo Pacheco, that he will not start impeachment proceedings against any of the justices of the Supreme Court.

No. Okay. But who could stop the Supreme Court is the Senate. But the chairman of the Senate, he already said, Rodrigo Pacheco, that he will not start impeachment proceedings against any of the justices of the Supreme Court.

So the justices of the Supreme Court, they are really comfortable because despite this constitutional tool that we could start impeachment proceedings against one of the justices, you don't have what to do. That's why we run to United States and are providing information for U.S.

So the justices of the Supreme Court, they are really comfortable because despite this constitutional tool that we could start impeachment proceedings against one of the justices, you don't have what to do. That's why we run to United States and are providing information for U.S.

authorities trying to help us down there in Brazil, also mainly because what is happening in the Brazil with the support of Lula da Silva, the president, is an attack not only against Elon Musk, but against American companies and not only Starlink and index, but also against the constitution of United States, the First Amendment.

authorities trying to help us down there in Brazil, also mainly because what is happening in the Brazil with the support of Lula da Silva, the president, is an attack not only against Elon Musk, but against American companies and not only Starlink and index, but also against the constitution of United States, the First Amendment.

And thanks God, we are having a good interaction, a good relationship, not only with Gene Jordan, with Mario Villasalazar, Chris Smith, Richard McCormick, and some other players, Mike Lee, Marco Rubio, Rick Scott. And for the first time in history, I think we are very well connected with the American politicians. How'd that happen?

And thanks God, we are having a good interaction, a good relationship, not only with Gene Jordan, with Mario Villasalazar, Chris Smith, Richard McCormick, and some other players, Mike Lee, Marco Rubio, Rick Scott. And for the first time in history, I think we are very well connected with the American politicians. How'd that happen?

I have to tell you that I come here very often to United States opening these doors. Yeah. It's not only because of me. Yeah. Okay. We have more people involved, but I hard work in that. I do not care. I get a plane, fly economy class, come here to have one meeting and come back to Brazil. I did that several times. And that's how we know one and another. Uh-huh.

I have to tell you that I come here very often to United States opening these doors. Yeah. It's not only because of me. Yeah. Okay. We have more people involved, but I hard work in that. I do not care. I get a plane, fly economy class, come here to have one meeting and come back to Brazil. I did that several times. And that's how we know one and another. Uh-huh.

And now they're very polite, very smart. They know the situation of Brazil and they are taking some actions here. We had a hearing in the US Congress in the Human Rights Committee with Chris Smith, inviting the owner of Rumble, Mr. Pavlovsky, with Paulo Figueiredo, to debate the censorship in Brazil, trying to prevent U.S. and trying to help Brazilians that are victims of the censorship.

And now they're very polite, very smart. They know the situation of Brazil and they are taking some actions here. We had a hearing in the US Congress in the Human Rights Committee with Chris Smith, inviting the owner of Rumble, Mr. Pavlovsky, with Paulo Figueiredo, to debate the censorship in Brazil, trying to prevent U.S. and trying to help Brazilians that are victims of the censorship.

So in the future, I think we can do much more fresh and coming from the international community, not only U.S., because I also talked about how great is the president of Argentina, Javier Millet, who is a libertarian. And we can help Brazil in this way, because with the globalization, everybody's connected. It's not only about Brazil.

So in the future, I think we can do much more fresh and coming from the international community, not only U.S., because I also talked about how great is the president of Argentina, Javier Millet, who is a libertarian. And we can help Brazil in this way, because with the globalization, everybody's connected. It's not only about Brazil.

Yes.

Yes.

When's the next election? In 2026. 26, okay. We had election this year, but it's municipal election, where we did great. Like the number of mayors and city councils that we have... like almost half of Brazil in the capital of the states, the most voted city council is from my party, from our party. Oh, yeah.

When's the next election? In 2026. 26, okay. We had election this year, but it's municipal election, where we did great. Like the number of mayors and city councils that we have... like almost half of Brazil in the capital of the states, the most voted city council is from my party, from our party. Oh, yeah.

Yes. Yeah, yeah, that's a big deal. No, it increased a lot. It was great, this election for Brazil. My father, he went for more than 140 cities in Brazil. And on the other path, Lula da Silva almost didn't go to be part of this election. He was in Mexico, he was traveling and not really campaign for people from his party.

Yes. Yeah, yeah, that's a big deal. No, it increased a lot. It was great, this election for Brazil. My father, he went for more than 140 cities in Brazil. And on the other path, Lula da Silva almost didn't go to be part of this election. He was in Mexico, he was traveling and not really campaign for people from his party.

And even the mayors, the candidate of the Labor Party, some of them, they didn't want Lula da Silva at the same stage of them. Which means that his credibility is going low, going down. So it was great to us. We will have elections in 2026.

And even the mayors, the candidate of the Labor Party, some of them, they didn't want Lula da Silva at the same stage of them. Which means that his credibility is going low, going down. So it was great to us. We will have elections in 2026.

So, before 1964... It was before 1964. Yes. We had a president called Jânio Quadros. After seven months in the presidency in our White House, he resigned. And there is no reason for that. It's a very funny chapter of our story because when he resigned, he said that forces outside of the earth, like kind of aliens, there was a kind of a threat against him. And that's why he resigned.

So, before 1964... It was before 1964. Yes. We had a president called Jânio Quadros. After seven months in the presidency in our White House, he resigned. And there is no reason for that. It's a very funny chapter of our story because when he resigned, he said that forces outside of the earth, like kind of aliens, there was a kind of a threat against him. And that's why he resigned.

Nowadays, my father cannot run because the electoral court, with Mr. Alexandre de Moraes on the head, decided that he had a meeting with ambassadors when he was president. and he criticized the electoral process of Brazil. This was anti-democratic, so they said that my father is convicted, eight years without, cannot run, with no political rights. So for eight years, my father cannot run.

Nowadays, my father cannot run because the electoral court, with Mr. Alexandre de Moraes on the head, decided that he had a meeting with ambassadors when he was president. and he criticized the electoral process of Brazil. This was anti-democratic, so they said that my father is convicted, eight years without, cannot run, with no political rights. So for eight years, my father cannot run.

How can we have the expectation in the 2026, he can go back and run again? Because this electoral court is made by seven judges, three coming from the Supreme Court, And as I told you, Alexandre de Moraes was on the head. In 2026, Alexandre de Moraes, he will not be in the electoral court anymore. Who will be the chairman of the next election?

How can we have the expectation in the 2026, he can go back and run again? Because this electoral court is made by seven judges, three coming from the Supreme Court, And as I told you, Alexandre de Moraes was on the head. In 2026, Alexandre de Moraes, he will not be in the electoral court anymore. Who will be the chairman of the next election?

It will be Cassio Nunes, who is a justice from the Supreme Court appointed by my father. And the vice chair of the electoral court in 2026 will be Andre Mendonça, who is other justice of the Supreme Court appointed by my father. So we have an expectation, not that they are going to work in favor of my father, but he will have a way more balanced court to analyze and judge everything.

It will be Cassio Nunes, who is a justice from the Supreme Court appointed by my father. And the vice chair of the electoral court in 2026 will be Andre Mendonça, who is other justice of the Supreme Court appointed by my father. So we have an expectation, not that they are going to work in favor of my father, but he will have a way more balanced court to analyze and judge everything.

And they can have the opportunity to really work for more transparency and more integrity election.

And they can have the opportunity to really work for more transparency and more integrity election.

I think so. Lula was in jail two years before the election. Supreme Court let him go free. So Lula, they annulled all of his conviction. He was convicted for laundering money and corruption. They said, oh, no, no, no. Lula would never be sued in the city of Curitiba. He would be sued in Sao Paulo or Brasilia. That's why they canceled all the convictions, the condemnation that he had.

I think so. Lula was in jail two years before the election. Supreme Court let him go free. So Lula, they annulled all of his conviction. He was convicted for laundering money and corruption. They said, oh, no, no, no. Lula would never be sued in the city of Curitiba. He would be sued in Sao Paulo or Brasilia. That's why they canceled all the convictions, the condemnation that he had.

So he got back again, now he's clean again, and that's how he was able to run on 2022. If it happened with a convicted fellow, convicted criminal, why cannot happen with my father who is guilty because he had a meeting with ambassadors? Are you afraid for your father and for yourself? We think that he can go to jail in this kind of atmospheric scenario.

So he got back again, now he's clean again, and that's how he was able to run on 2022. If it happened with a convicted fellow, convicted criminal, why cannot happen with my father who is guilty because he had a meeting with ambassadors? Are you afraid for your father and for yourself? We think that he can go to jail in this kind of atmospheric scenario.

Think with our enemy's head. If you send him to jail, they will attract even more attention of the international community. Yeah, yeah, definitely. My father, he probably, he'll write a book, He'll have kind of communication outside of the jail, maybe between his lawyers, I don't know.

Think with our enemy's head. If you send him to jail, they will attract even more attention of the international community. Yeah, yeah, definitely. My father, he probably, he'll write a book, He'll have kind of communication outside of the jail, maybe between his lawyers, I don't know.

But everybody always, like in a Rocky Balboa movie, everybody cheers for the one who is receiving all of these unfair convictions. You know, we always stay on the side of the victim. If you kill my father, he's going to become a martyr. And for decades, he is going to be reminded. Right, right. As someone that's like fight for free speech and freedom of the people, you know. Right.

But everybody always, like in a Rocky Balboa movie, everybody cheers for the one who is receiving all of these unfair convictions. You know, we always stay on the side of the victim. If you kill my father, he's going to become a martyr. And for decades, he is going to be reminded. Right, right. As someone that's like fight for free speech and freedom of the people, you know. Right.

It's a problem for the left to do that. And to be very honest, I guess, I guess the establishment of Brazil, they are waiting for the US election. Uh-huh. Because... Right.

It's a problem for the left to do that. And to be very honest, I guess, I guess the establishment of Brazil, they are waiting for the US election. Uh-huh. Because... Right.

Yes, because, for example, when you have a Supreme Court powerful like that, they are backed by businessmen, billionaires, millionaires. People who, for sure, have relationship with United States. They have houses here. They have an accountant in Delaware, whatever.

Yes, because, for example, when you have a Supreme Court powerful like that, they are backed by businessmen, billionaires, millionaires. People who, for sure, have relationship with United States. They have houses here. They have an accountant in Delaware, whatever.

They don't want to have problems with the U.S. administration. So all of that is... It's on the table. I don't think, to be very honest, the chances that my father could go to jail, it was way higher in the past than it is nowadays. This is my feeling. Because in Brazil, you don't need a reason to go to the jail. You have a congressman like me that is in jail. His name is Daniel Silveira.

They don't want to have problems with the U.S. administration. So all of that is... It's on the table. I don't think, to be very honest, the chances that my father could go to jail, it was way higher in the past than it is nowadays. This is my feeling. Because in Brazil, you don't need a reason to go to the jail. You have a congressman like me that is in jail. His name is Daniel Silveira.

And I say his name to you, make sure that you can Google it and do your research about who is the guy. He's in the jail because he got his cell phone and said bad words to the Supreme Court. In our constitution, a senator or a congressman like me, we can say whatever we want. We will never be sued in a court because our opinions.

And I say his name to you, make sure that you can Google it and do your research about who is the guy. He's in the jail because he got his cell phone and said bad words to the Supreme Court. In our constitution, a senator or a congressman like me, we can say whatever we want. We will never be sued in a court because our opinions.

But this guy is in jail, convicted nine years, almost nine years in jail because he made a video that through the eyes of the Supreme Court, it was considered aggression against the democracy. At that time that this guy was convicted, Jerry Bolsonaro was the president and gave to him the presidential pardon. He got out of jail. Then my father didn't get reelected.

But this guy is in jail, convicted nine years, almost nine years in jail because he made a video that through the eyes of the Supreme Court, it was considered aggression against the democracy. At that time that this guy was convicted, Jerry Bolsonaro was the president and gave to him the presidential pardon. He got out of jail. Then my father didn't get reelected.

And the Supreme Court analyzed the pardon of the President Bolsonaro and canceled that. They handled, the first time in the whole history of Brazil, a presidential pardon, and the guy is back now in the prison. That's why I'm telling you I have to take care about my words, because I don't know, maybe this crazy, this- Careful. Madness, yeah, yeah. So let's see what happens.

And the Supreme Court analyzed the pardon of the President Bolsonaro and canceled that. They handled, the first time in the whole history of Brazil, a presidential pardon, and the guy is back now in the prison. That's why I'm telling you I have to take care about my words, because I don't know, maybe this crazy, this- Careful. Madness, yeah, yeah. So let's see what happens.

Well, that'll do it, you know. But then his vice president was a huge communist guy. And he was starting to talk to end with the private property, get the farms and get the land of the farmers and send it to the people. You know, this kind of issue, very strong at that time. Regarding that in Cuba, the revolution is 1959. Right. So we are talking five years after that.

Well, that'll do it, you know. But then his vice president was a huge communist guy. And he was starting to talk to end with the private property, get the farms and get the land of the farmers and send it to the people. You know, this kind of issue, very strong at that time. Regarding that in Cuba, the revolution is 1959. Right. So we are talking five years after that.

But we have a hope that with the new configuration of the electoral court, we can overturn the eligibility of my father. And his moral, his political capital is huge. If you look to the social media, everywhere he goes, even left-wing cities, it's full of people following him. Full, full. And on the other hand, Lula cannot go to the streets. When is the election in 2026? In October. October 2026.

But we have a hope that with the new configuration of the electoral court, we can overturn the eligibility of my father. And his moral, his political capital is huge. If you look to the social media, everywhere he goes, even left-wing cities, it's full of people following him. Full, full. And on the other hand, Lula cannot go to the streets. When is the election in 2026? In October. October 2026.

Bukele, Naibe Bukele.

Bukele, Naibe Bukele.

Naibe Bukele is great. Yeah. I've been there twice last year in El Salvador. One in vacation should surf because they have great waves in El Salvador and the other visiting the jails. Even the famous one that he built, it has capacity for 40,000 people in that jail they call is a center against terrorism. And what Bukele basically did is,

Naibe Bukele is great. Yeah. I've been there twice last year in El Salvador. One in vacation should surf because they have great waves in El Salvador and the other visiting the jails. Even the famous one that he built, it has capacity for 40,000 people in that jail they call is a center against terrorism. And what Bukele basically did is,

He's jailing the criminals and do not let them get outside. So he already arrested more than 70,000 criminals. And he reduced, to have an idea, El Salvador in 2016, the murders rate, it was 102 murders for each group of 100,000 people. 102 is the most. violent country in the world in the year 2016. Now, from 2002, they are around two, same level of Canada or some of the European countries.

He's jailing the criminals and do not let them get outside. So he already arrested more than 70,000 criminals. And he reduced, to have an idea, El Salvador in 2016, the murders rate, it was 102 murders for each group of 100,000 people. 102 is the most. violent country in the world in the year 2016. Now, from 2002, they are around two, same level of Canada or some of the European countries.

And this is how he did that. Basically,

And this is how he did that. Basically,

Thank you, Professor. Thank you for coming here.

Thank you, Professor. Thank you for coming here.

And so he was thinking the way to turn Brazil into a communist country. And the major part of our society didn't want that. So the national association of the press, Catholic church, farmers, militaries for sure.

And so he was thinking the way to turn Brazil into a communist country. And the major part of our society didn't want that. So the national association of the press, Catholic church, farmers, militaries for sure.

So we start to have a lot of huge protests, more than 1 million people in Rio de Janeiro, for example, on the streets asking that the militaries should not let the Brazil turn itself as a Cuba. And so the Congress on April 1st of 1964, the Congress said, if the president do not come to the capital in Brasilia, he was in a trip in China. If he not come back to Brasilia, to the capital,

So we start to have a lot of huge protests, more than 1 million people in Rio de Janeiro, for example, on the streets asking that the militaries should not let the Brazil turn itself as a Cuba. And so the Congress on April 1st of 1964, the Congress said, if the president do not come to the capital in Brasilia, he was in a trip in China. If he not come back to Brasilia, to the capital,

We are going to declare that the presidential chair is vacancy. There is no one in the presidential chair. And we will open for a new election.

We are going to declare that the presidential chair is vacancy. There is no one in the presidential chair. And we will open for a new election.

And the Congress elected, a couple of days later of that, the Congress elected the first general of this period of time, in 64. The military said that they would give back the power to the civil society very quick. But after almost two years, we start to have radical left groups bombing airports, kidnapping airplanes, and even the U.S. ambassador was kidnapped during the 70s in Brazil.

And the Congress elected, a couple of days later of that, the Congress elected the first general of this period of time, in 64. The military said that they would give back the power to the civil society very quick. But after almost two years, we start to have radical left groups bombing airports, kidnapping airplanes, and even the U.S. ambassador was kidnapped during the 70s in Brazil.

So with this atmosphere, the military said, all right, we cannot give you back the power because you have a lot of instability, so we are going to rule the country from now on. And they stayed there for 20 years.

So with this atmosphere, the military said, all right, we cannot give you back the power because you have a lot of instability, so we are going to rule the country from now on. And they stayed there for 20 years.

Yeah, only the Congress. The senators and the federal representatives vote for president.

Yeah, only the Congress. The senators and the federal representatives vote for president.

Some of the people, they miss this period of time because it's a period of time that, for example, the murder rates of Brazil, it was almost the same level of United States. We developed a lot our economy. We became number 44 economy of the world to top 10 economy of the world. It's a period of time that we have the huge infrastructure buildings as the nuclear using of Angra dos Reis,

Some of the people, they miss this period of time because it's a period of time that, for example, the murder rates of Brazil, it was almost the same level of United States. We developed a lot our economy. We became number 44 economy of the world to top 10 economy of the world. It's a period of time that we have the huge infrastructure buildings as the nuclear using of Angra dos Reis,

The hydroelectric used in Afitaipu that it was the hugest, the number one, the biggest of the world. Now China, they had one bigger than ours. Roads all over the country. So they really reduce the corruption, invest a lot in the infrastructure of the country, And during a period of time, we had a lot of prosperity.

The hydroelectric used in Afitaipu that it was the hugest, the number one, the biggest of the world. Now China, they had one bigger than ours. Roads all over the country. So they really reduce the corruption, invest a lot in the infrastructure of the country, And during a period of time, we had a lot of prosperity.

But in the 80s, the economic rise mainly coming from the oil crisis from the Middle East and the increase of the prices and some other issues, Brazil stopped, stagnated in the economy. And the political pressure to give back the opportunity to the people to vote, it was increasing. So there are two generals that were president in the end of the 70s and beginning of the 80s.

But in the 80s, the economic rise mainly coming from the oil crisis from the Middle East and the increase of the prices and some other issues, Brazil stopped, stagnated in the economy. And the political pressure to give back the opportunity to the people to vote, it was increasing. So there are two generals that were president in the end of the 70s and beginning of the 80s.

What they did is, first, in 79, they give amnesty to all of the radical left-wing groups that kidnapped the US ambassador, that killed some militaries, even foreign militaries in Brazil. to everybody go back again to the country and trying to pacificate the country and give it back. It wasn't necessary, you know, shooting or killing other peoples. The military said, okay.

What they did is, first, in 79, they give amnesty to all of the radical left-wing groups that kidnapped the US ambassador, that killed some militaries, even foreign militaries in Brazil. to everybody go back again to the country and trying to pacificate the country and give it back. It wasn't necessary, you know, shooting or killing other peoples. The military said, okay.

The president at that time, João Figueiredo, it was a military general. He said, okay, we are going to give back the permission of people to vote. Is that what you want? I will give you back this permission. But he warned, you are going to miss the time that we were here in the capital Because we care about people. This radical left, they are going to take power. They are going to make you suffer.

The president at that time, João Figueiredo, it was a military general. He said, okay, we are going to give back the permission of people to vote. Is that what you want? I will give you back this permission. But he warned, you are going to miss the time that we were here in the capital Because we care about people. This radical left, they are going to take power. They are going to make you suffer.

And I hope, God, on the day that you are going to ask the militaries again to take the power again, let's see what happens. We say that this is the prophecy of the President Figueiredo. And after, I don't know, 30 years after that, we are in this situation that we have nowadays. So a lot of the Brazilians who lived that time, not the Brazilians who know about

And I hope, God, on the day that you are going to ask the militaries again to take the power again, let's see what happens. We say that this is the prophecy of the President Figueiredo. And after, I don't know, 30 years after that, we are in this situation that we have nowadays. So a lot of the Brazilians who lived that time, not the Brazilians who know about

press articles or left-wing professor that they have in the university or in the college. So part of the Brazilians, they miss this period of time. Some others think that it was very bad because you have censorship, you have the state killing people and people who were exilated outside of Brazil. So I could say it's 50-50 in my opinion.

press articles or left-wing professor that they have in the university or in the college. So part of the Brazilians, they miss this period of time. Some others think that it was very bad because you have censorship, you have the state killing people and people who were exilated outside of Brazil. So I could say it's 50-50 in my opinion.

The left, they have, they're a minority that speak louder. Why do they speak louder? Because they control the press, they control the unions, they control part of the politics. And on the right side, on the side that I consider myself, and the conservative are better, on the non-left side, we don't have even a political party. We don't have...

a university or college, you don't have union, you don't have a think tank. If you look to U.S., for example, since the 70s, you have Heritage Foundation think tank, you have CPAC, you had Ronald Reagan, you have some leaderships that are very known and conservative sides. So in Brazil, we are starting to build that.

So-so in their particular opinion, but the military, they do not go to politics. After 85, what happened is the left, as they control the media, mainly the media, they start to demonize the militaries. So during the 80s and 90s, you don't have a politician say, I'm a right-wing politician. This was almost forbidden.

The sense of democracy in Brazil that we had, it was the PT, the Liberal Party, which is extreme left, communist, like, I can tell you, AOC, Bernie Sanders, is the same kind of people that have a relationship with Lula da Silva and people from their party in Brazil. And the Social Democrats, which is center-left, This we thought it was democracy, you know?

But then when my father start to appear in the national scenario, they say, oh, wait a minute, this is not right. Right is Jair Bolsonaro or more to the right here. So we changed the spectrum of Brazil. And it's that sense, it's so true what I'm talking because in the previous election, you had the social Democrat, Geraldo Alckmin, running for president.

He was calling Lula da Silva from the Labor Party as a thief, as a criminal. Now, guess what? The vice president of Lula da Silva is this guy, Geraldo Alckmin. And they don't even have a shame because of that. So my father, it was disruptive. It's like, you know, the king is naked, My father was the one saying, oh, the king is naked.

And everybody starts to pay attention about what is going on, mainly because now, after 2010, you have a new content in this political scenario, which it is internet. With the internet, we break the monopoly of the mainstream media and we start to bring in more information. As you know, that's why they are trying to regulate and democratize the internet and social media.

But in the end of the day, we all know that they want to control the narrative because they lost that.

This is a deep story, professor, that we can talk.

You described yourself as center right. Yes, I'll put right. Why not? People sometimes say, oh, far, far, far right. Yeah, well, that's... Far right for me is other thing because what Lula and the communists, they want, they want to control the economy 100%. We want, what is the opposite of control the economy 100%? is when you do not have any kind of administration. It's anarcho-capitalist.

We are not anarcho-capitalist. We believe in a minimum size of the administration. We don't wanna destroy the administration. We need the government to rule some things, and you have to be very sensitive when you talk about that, to do not go far away. What is rule something? For example, you have the right to go and back to your home to the work.

All right, you drive your car, but you cannot drive your car on the wrong way because you are going to put in risk other people's life, crashing other people's car. So to somehow rule these kind of situations and the situations where the individual cannot do, for example, Everybody knows that, have the sense that kill each other is a wrong thing, all right? Everybody believe in that.

We should not be a society where everybody's killing everybody. So we need police. We need somehow defend our territory from other countries, because maybe you have in our neighborhood a dictatorship that want to invade your country.

If you look nowadays to Ukraine and Russia, to Venezuela and Guyana, Maduro saying that he wants to get the territory of Ezequiel and some other parts of the world, makes sense that you need an army. So to defend your country, preserve your culture, to have a civilization on the streets, police, and one or two points, You need the state, you need the administration.

We, I consider myself classical conservative. Okay. But I'm very friend, for example, of the classical liberal when you talk about economy. Because if you go to Brazil and you say, I'm a liberal, they are not going to link you with the left. They're going to link you with the right. Okay, that's what I was wondering. Liberal here,

is people who want to control your life, control the free speech on social media, want a huge administration, increase the taxes. Right, liberal here increasingly means progressive, right? And that means left. Liberal in Brazil is less taxes, free market. Yeah, okay. And the difference between our liberals and me, who in the position of conservative, it'll be about maybe drugs.

They want to have a more flexible rules about drugs. I'm against to open, you know, to have more flexibility on the drug law, for example, the regulations. But you have some, as in Brazil, we are deep in a moral crisis. This is not a priority.

The priority is to rescue our country, to people believe again that we can have an administration that take care of the people, take care not, look to the people. Because the current president, what he's doing, he's increasing the taxes, travel all around the world.

Like the first year of Lula da Silva as president of Brazil, he spent more than two months outside of Brazil, spending a little bit more than $200,000 daily when he's traveling outside of Brazil. He's staying in the most expensive hotels, you know, and... When he come back to Brazil, he start to tax people.

We have, for example, usually people in Brazil, when you buy something, mainly from China, and it's less than $50, the product that you are buying, you do not pay any kind of tax. And usually poor people or middle class, they do that. Lula is taxing even this kind of situation. And he spent more money than my father, Jair Bolsonaro, when he was president during the pandemic.

Imagine, how can someone spend more money than the other president during the pandemic? So that's why the price of the American dollars in Brazil is exploding and the numbers of the economy are not that good. Still, Lula da Silva, he had... a situation where he's receiving a lot of benefit from the previous administration because we privatized a lot, we reduced a lot of taxes.

We became the number four in the world when you talk about receiving foreign investments. We are doing very good. It was the first time in history that Brazil, we had less inflation than United States. Because we had a liberal, classical liberal economy ministry called Paulo Guedes, who received 100% of autonomy from the president, from my father, to do his work.

Because my father, he knows his place. He said, I'm not an economist. Right. But I will appoint someone that can do the homework as never seen in Brazil. It was the first time since 1985 that we had a liberal, a Chicago boy, in the ministry of economy ministry. like with the possibility to do his work.

All right, so keeping this story, in 2014, I was elected, 82,224 votes. And in my first term, I was looking to my father, increasing his popularity, going every place in Brazil, like usually on Thursday, he traveled to a different state, coming back to the capital in Brasilia on Friday. So traveling every week, almost every week, all around Brazil, talking about- Still as a congressman.

Yeah, still as a congressman.

Oh yes, okay. So when someone says that you are racist, so okay, why am I racist? I do not support affirmative action for black people because in Brazil, since when the Portuguese arrived in Brazil in the year 1500, they start to mix with the Indians. Then the blacks and we are all mixed. You didn't go to Brazil.

You can look to someone and say, oh, you look European, you look Latin, you look Indian, you look black. we don't have this issue as strong as you have here in United States. So if you consider, if you vote against affirmative action for black people in Brazil, because we will have black people very rich in Brazil, they say that you label you as a racist.

For example, there was a bill in Brazil that if you look for the bill, you can clearly see that pastors could go to jail if they read part of the Bible. Is it fair? No, this is unfair. So when he positioned against this kind of bill, people say, you are homophobic. But in the end of the day, going to, why was so important he travel all around Brazil?

Because when you go to some states, they have a local press and they do not receive a public money. So when you talk in a radio, you're talking with a maid, with a trucker driver, with, you know, regular common people. Or directly. And they listening to Jerry Bolsonaro, they say, this guy is not crazy. It's not the crazy guy that CNN tells me that is crazy. This guy, I agree with him.

So when the election came on 2018, aside of this work, also with the increase of internet, smartphone, social media, my father became a phenomenon. It was fashion, you know, support him. And thanks God, the left, the establishment, they were all the time saying that he was so ridiculous that he would never be the president. But he became elected in 2018.

And at that time, I ran for my first election.

And when... The right feeling is he was fed up with the Congress. Like, you are only one in the middle of 513... federal representatives, you don't have the power to do whatever you want. You can do bills, but to approve a bill is very different. He was looking a radical left-wing administration ruling the country, deeply into corruption scandals all the time.

And he started to think, if Dilma Rousseff get elected, reelected, Dilma Rousseff is a former president of Brazil, same party of Lula da Silva, the current president, Labor's party. If Dilma Rousseff who cannot connect one phrase with other phrase, pretty much the same opinion that people have from Kamala Harris here, why not me? And my father, he's really hardworking, really hardworking.

Still nowadays, he's almost 70 years old and he's every time traveling, every time. I really admire him because I don't know if I, I'm 40, if I could have the same energy of my father to do all of the work that he does. So he starts to think, if Dilma Rousseff did that, why not me? Why I can't be the president? So he starts to go for that. He had a plan, all right? He has a project.

He starts to go around, not saying that he's going to be the president, but... After this work, people start to realize that he could be a president.

Yeah, Brazil is a... is a little bit, it's different from Canada because it's presidentialism, not parliamentarism, and different from US because here who win in the state get all the votes of the delegates. In Brazil, every vote counts. Every voter, every people count. If you have more than 18 years old, you vote. From 18 until 70 years old is mandatory. You have to vote.

If you do not vote, you pay a fee. You are fined in $1. It's not a big deal, but it still is mandatory. And every country votes. So we are 210 million people living in Brazil. I guess around nowadays 130, 140 million people in Brazil, they are able to vote. So you have to go all over the country. Here, I know the presidential candidates, they usually look

Their focus is on the swing states, not in Brazil. In Brazil, you have to be everywhere, everywhere, which makes a little bit harder. You need more energy to do your campaign. And in 2018, my father did his campaign basically with a cell phone. I can tell you, my father didn't spend, to be very conservative in my accounts, he didn't even spend $1 million in his campaign.

Thank you.

This is how powerful was the support in favor of Jair Bolsonaro. He, his flags, defend the family, get back again the patriotism, reduce the size of the administration, respect the kids, no gender ideology in the schools, support the law enforcement, get the criminals to the jail, like as much time as you can send them to the jail. So it's the opposite of the left.

When you say that all of these flags, the left, they say, no, no, no, we need gender ideology, we need to respect everybody, and all of this narrative that they start to build. But the mainstream media all the time was labeling my father, like racist, xenophobic, you don't like poor people, you don't like women, you don't like black, you don't like no one.

It's even funny because in the end of the day, I don't even know if someone like that exists. And people through mainly by internet, the social media of my father was controlled by my brother, Carlos. The message that we gave to the people is this message.

It also happens in Brazil.

Is it the same in Brazil? It's the same situation. But I have to go back to 2018. We had way more freedom. Like, no one... Nowadays, I can guarantee to you that sometimes people think, maybe even right on X... but they do not post that to not have problems with the Supreme Court. Right, right, we'll get into that.

And I'll tell you how I can make you believe that my father didn't spend even $1 million and almost all of the campaign we did through the social media is because he got elected in 2018 and he took office on January of 2019.

Since 2019, the Supreme Court of Brazil, they opened an investigation called the Fake News Investigation, trying to prove that Jair Bolsonaro, he had kind of AI or an office fitted with public money to destroy the reputation of the journalists and the reputation of the communists and all the other players in the election. since 2019, we are in 2024, this investigation is still open.

They just turned our life towards, they just did everything that I can do in terms of investigation against my family, against my father, the federal police, went to my father's house to take his vaccine card. It's funny, this is other things that we have to talk about. The accusations that they say, the accusations against us, And still, they cannot prove.

See, one of the things... We do not believe all could build a narrative to destroy us. Yeah, yeah. Nowadays, the reality is just a piece of something. Yeah. Reality doesn't matter. The matter is the narrative that they build inside of the mind of the people. Because in the end of the day, the elite, the radical left, they are smart enough.

They knew that we won the elections doing everything that we did in social media, traveling all over the country, because the majority part of Brazil, they're conservative.

Yes, yes. And the thing that makes us kind of special is because my father, he has authenticity. He is original. He's pretty much like Trump. He first, he do not stop to think, oh, I'm going to speak that. Is it good or bad? Let me do it this way. No, no, no. They think they talk. It doesn't matter, is it going to hurt you? It's your problem. Sorry if you are so sensitive.

So people start to trust you. You open a live streaming. I remember that when a new scandal against my father, oh, he's a racist, oh, he's this and that. When something show up, the first thing that he does is open a live streaming and start to talk about that openly. That's why people trust on him.

You know, all the other politicians, before a speaker should do an interview, the first thing that they do, they go to someone in the, or one of the assistants, oh, you are from the market. Should I say that? Right. Am I going to earn more votes saying this or that? And then they call the press for a conference and do a beautiful speech. So we are on the other way.

If you look for the social media of my father, you are going to see that most part of the videos are, low-cost videos. You don't need a cell phone to do that. It's not something beautiful with content and edited. So these things makes you connect with the people. For example, one of the things they always try to say is that, oh, Jerry Bolsonaro, he's not Rumble.

Like he wear soccer team jerseys to pretend to be someone popular. But my father is the same in front of the cameras and behind of the cameras. And in the end of the day, people realize that. There was a very special case when he was president right in the beginning of the pandemic.

where you had people on the beaches of Rio de Janeiro getting arrested because the whole city was in a lockdown, very strong lockdown. So it was forbidden to you, get out of your house, basically like that, like in Canada. And you have some videos of one or two ladies on the beach and the cops going there to arrest these people.

And in a meeting of the president, my father, Jair Bolsonaro, with his ministries, he's talking like using very bad and very strong words. Why is not the justice ministry talking about this kind of issue? Drug dealers cannot be arrested like that. Why ladies on the beach getting D-vitamin are going to be in jail because of that? And at this meeting,

Sure. Francis, great honor to be here with you, Professor. Sure, after your trip to Brazil, you know that Brazilians usually love you, because your courage and your background, the issues about Canada, even that made you to move yourself to US, we have the same problem in Brazil.

he with his ministers, it was recorded, but not for the public. How people watched that? Because the Supreme Court, I think one year after all of that, God gave an order to the president. Hey, President Bolsonaro, we want the video of your meetings with the ministries. And he gave. For the lucky of my father, expecting to give in the first hand the breaking news to the people.

Oh, look, President Bolsonaro talking bad words. Look how bad he is behind the scenes. This is Bolsonaro. CNN broadcast the video live before see that. And in fact, you have my father talking bad words for the justice ministry to some of the people like around him in our White House. You know what? People loved it. People just loved. People said, Bolsonaro just got reelected because of this video.

Because people see that this is the president that I voted for, defending people. Come on, who judges think they are? Who you think the cops think they are to arrest some ladies on the beach? I remember, I remind that that day, I was in Sao Paulo and I do surf. I went to the sea to surf. And people came to me, other surfers came to me, oh, Bolsonaro, because I'm also a federal congressman.

Bolsonaro, your father, he's the best. People start to accomplish me on the water. This is not common. Usually surfers, when they go to the water, maybe you can talk with one or other, but it's not common you gather in the water, you know, with others. So it was proven that Bolsonaro is the same one in front of the cameras and behind of the cameras.

Nowadays you hide that.

But starting from your question before we go deep in all of this culture war and culture issues, my name is Eduardo Bolsonaro. I'm 40 years old. I have two kids, one of four, my daughter, she has four years old, and I have a boy of one. I'm very well married with Eloisa, who let me to be here. And I'm the third son of the former president of Brazil, Jair Bolsonaro. Before I talk about...

Four years. Four years. So he was... If I may, professor, excuse me. I want to open a parenthesis. One month before the election, he also got stabbed in the belly during the campaign. This is very important to say because he was almost killed by a former member of the Socialist and Liberty Party, PSOL. This party in Brazil is radical left. They are connected.

They have a lot of pictures and trips here to U.S. to have meetings with AOC, Bernie Sanders, and this kind of people, who is the radical left part of the Democratic Party. The name of the guy who stabbed my father, his name is Adélio Bispo. My father was on the streets campaigning with a crowd of 20,000 or 30,000 people around him in the city of Juiz de Fora.

One of the securities of my father put a hand on his shoulders. So you have videos on YouTube everywhere. And the guy came with a knife, jumped and stabbed my father, twisted a little bit, and the knife got into the belly of my father, 15 centimeters, and cutting some parts of his intestine. At that time, in the moment that it happened, you could not see too much blood there.

You can see that there was a cut and their security ran into a hospital with him. In the hospital, the doctors identified that he was with internal hemorrhage. He lost about 2.5 liters of blood. He died twice. And he went to the surgery. And you have a lot of these... more than two liters of blood together with, how can I say that politely in English, with shit.

Which makes you think, oh, so for sure he had an infection after that. Like, it's a miracle he survived. The doctor said two more minutes on the way to the hospital, two more minutes delay, he's done. He would be out of blood to the heart to bomb.

about the recent political scenario, it's very important to remark that Brazil, we lived from 64 until 1985, a military regime that started avoiding Brazil to turn itself as Cuba because we had, at that time, a communist president that was trying to bring Brazil to the same situation of Cuba.

When he arrived in the hospital in the emergency, he had exactly the specialist, medical specialist required for this kind of situation, which is very rare in Brazil. He has a gastro...

medical doctor for that part the securities of my father also uh he they know exactly the way to the closers hospital right so the driver was a local that knew the fastest way to arrive in the hospital and one day before my father he had a problem in the throat And a friend, Gilson Machado, which is our former tourism minister, he gave a medicine to my father, an antibiotic to my father.

Bolsonaro, you are feeling sick a little bit on the throat. Yeah, but you're campaigning, you know, you cannot wait. It comes. it become worse to receive an antibiotic. Take this pill with the antibiotic. So my father start to have antibiotic. So this is, I think, what prevented to get infection because there's a lot of blood with feces inside of his body.

So he survived that, but more than 70% of the time of the campaign, in Brazil we have 45 days that you can campaign. More than 70% of this period of time, my father was in a hospital. So he could not go to the streets, running all over the country, delivering his message to run, to do a presidential campaign. And still he got elected. This is very important.

This is also very important to say because people do a lot of, they compare with the Trump situation after the shooting case right next to his head. And it's one more things that Trump have in common with my father. So after that, he got elected and I also became the most voted ever federal representative, most vote ever federal representative in the history of Brazil. Now, he did or you did?

I did. You did. I did for the Congress. He did as president. I received almost 2 million votes. In my first campaign, my first election in 2014, 82,000. 2018, almost 2 million. So it was a huge message for all of the country. Our party became very strong. We were in a very small party that we had only three congressmen. After the 2018 election, we became 52.

And nowadays, after the 22 elections, we are almost 100. congressmen in my party. So it shows that the wave is still increasing. It's not, oh, Bolsonaro lost the election and okay, the movement is over. No, no, no, the movement is still strong. And the only way that the legacy media, for example, sees to control us is controlling the narrative with the new bills against the free speech.

Yeah, one month before the election of 2018.

Yeah, 2022, it was the election that my father wanted for re-election, but he lost. Right, and it was a month before that that he was almost killed. No, in 2018.

Then I have to take care about my words because in Brazil, depending on what you talk, you can be considered anti-democratic. to talk to the Americans here that are watching us. Remember that Trump in Georgia, the mugshot, because he was talking about the election process.

So people on the street with the support of the Catholic church and some other sectors of our society approved to the Congress to impeach this president. And then we start to have a period of time from 64 until 85 electing Indirectly, because in these elections, the senators and the congressmen voted for president only, not the popular vote, only the Congress voting.

But you have a bunch of videos of Hillary Clinton and some other people from the Democratic Party saying that they do not trust in the election. Maybe the 2016 election wasn't 100% trustable. But with Trump, things change. So with us, things change in Brazil too. And we have a target. on our heads, so I have to take care about what I'm going to say to not have problems when I come back home.

In 2022 elections, there are Two theories. One theory is the machines that we use to vote, because in Brazil it's fully electronic. You go to a machine developed by the government and you dial the number of your candidates. For example, the number of my father was 22. Our party number is 22. So you want to vote for Bolsonaro, you dial 22 and press the green button. Boom. That's it.

And then you pray for God that someone in the capital, the bureaucrats are going to count your vote properly. But you do not receive, you don't have a way to recount that. You don't have a way to audit that. You know, you just go home and that's it. Pretty much like in Venezuela. In Venezuela, they have a similar system of Brazil.

And in 2022, I'm not going to talk about... We also have to be careful about discussing such things here, and it's more a consequence of lawsuits.

With that said, back to the election. I'll not talk about the story, all right? Let's say that our machine is 100% fully trustable. Yeah. But still, in Brazil, who organize the elections? Who coordinate the elections? Who judge everything about the elections in Brazil? is a court called Superior Electoral Court. I will say only electoral court, referring myself to this court.

Who is on the head of this court? Who is the president, the chairman of this electoral court? Is a justice from the Supreme Court. His name is Alexandre de Moraes. On 2022, it was Alexandre de Moraes. This is the name that I would like you to save on your mind, Alexandre de Moraes. This man, he has a personal problem with my father and with our family.

He did a lot of interventions in the executive power and sometimes even in the legislative, in the Congress. And he was- It was during your father's administration. Yes. During my father's administration, we had a lot of conflicts with him. So he was on the head of this electoral court.

So this electoral court, you had ridiculous decisions such as my father could not open a live streaming from his cell phone at his house. Why they say that? Because all the other candidates, they do not have a house, a public house, paid with public money. Because when you are president, you live in the White House. Who pay the rent of the White House?

Who pay the energy and the water of the White House? Is a taxpayer. So the reason that they found to avoid Jair Bolsonaro, Jair Bolsonaro was forbidden to broadcast from his house. So if he would like to start live streaming from his Facebook, He would get a car, get out of his house, and start a live streaming.

But every five years, a new president, a military general president during this period of time. So after 85, we get back again with the democracy that we have nowadays and start to elect new presidents as pretty much as like in United States. And during this period of time, my father, in the end of the 80s, he was a army captain. So I born in 84, 1984.

This is a point to understand how ridiculous was the decision during this period of time. And more than that, we could not say some words to define our oppositor, Lula da Silva. There is a... The number one conservative media in Brazil is called Jovem Pan.

Jovem Pan, they received an order saying that they cannot refer, the journalists of Jovem Pan could not say that Lula is a criminal, is a thief, or that he was unconvicted from the convictions that he had in the past. Because Lula da Silva, the current president, the Supreme Court, he was convicted for laundering money and corruption in the past.

But two years before the election, they overturned all of that and let Lula da Silva run for president. And all of the establishment was in favor of his election, very clearly. So this is how the election happened in Brazil. So I can tell you, even if you believe that our machines that we use to vote is 100% okay, 100% trustable, it wasn't a fair election.

Because basically- How close was the margin? is that my father made 49.1 or 2%, Lula made 49.51.

Yes, and you have some more other things that I could add. For example, the most left-wing states that we have, they were voting even after 5 p.m. on Sunday. Because in our election, everybody go to vote at the same day. The first Sunday of October, you have to vote. from 8 a.m. until 5 p.m., all right? After that, it's closed. No one, anyone else can vote anymore.

But in the States, where they have the majority in favor of the left-wing politicians, the state of Bahia and some other states on the northeast of Brazil, which is the major part of the Brazilians receive assistentialism from the government to survive, In these states, people were voting 6, 7, 8 p.m. And some million more votes were added in the election.

So what I can say, and I cannot prove to be very honest, professor, what I can say is in Brazil, The people who sit on the desks, taking the idea of the people and letting them go vote, most part of these people, they know each other because they are the same people, election after election, who are there on the school, the sessions, on the electoral sessions, receiving people to vote.

So if everybody's left wing, if you do not have morals, you are not... left-wing usually, politicians of left-wing did not care about values or morals, you can say, oh, okay, let's see the list who did not vote yet, and let's go vote in their names. It can happen. So if you stop people to vote after 5 p.m., as is the electoral law require us to be,

it will be way more transparency, way more trust about our election. I'm telling you that you have a lot of way to do frauds.

The main thing that people comply about my father is that he talks too much. But I mean, it's the opinion of the people. We usually say that, okay, are you voting for president or you want a boyfriend or a girlfriend? You know, he talks too much, but the economy is going good. The criminals are having a very tough time with my father. You know, regular citizens, they are having a better life.

You have less bureaucracy. You can take care of your life. You know, a lot of benefits. But the press all the time, they are doing some kind of notorious scandal because, depending of what my father was used to say, because he has no future, sometimes getting out of his house, he stop and start to talk with the people, with the press around, and use non-politically correct words.

My father was an army captain and two older brothers than me. And in the end of the 80s, my father had some problems inside of the army because he was complaining about the salary of the militaries, and he did not have the permission of his superiors to do interviews. So he did an interview for a famous magazine in Brazil and he became very famous.

and it became a scandal. In the end of the day, you can affect, talking that so much every day, it affects people, and maybe you change your priorities.

The reputation outside of Brazil is bad. If you go to Europe, people will think that my father is the evil.

Well, and I would say, like... He's burning Amazon. Right, right.

And that's why Brazil is important to the United States, because we are the lab. The ideas usually come from here. and they apply in Brazil. So why Americans showed penetration in Brazil? Because we have a unique thing when I talk about censorship is because everywhere in the world, it comes through the hands of the president, of the prime minister.

For example, you have big issues with Trudeau or with the C-16 law and whatever, but in Brazil, is the Supreme Court.

Yes.

Explain that. Alexandre de Moraes, he was the chairman of the Electoral Court, and he was too aggressive in the 2022 elections, mainly. In the 2022 elections, what happened? Around 100 conservative profiles on Twitter got blocked. To be blocked in Brazil, our law says that you need to give to the other side, to the users, their right to defend himself.

But because of that, as he didn't have the permission of the superiors, he went 15 days in jail, in the military jail. And to calm down the situation, he ran for city council in Rio de Janeiro in 1988. Because when you do that, you receive three months off in the army. And I'm not sure if he did expect to get elected, but he did get elected city council of Rio de Janeiro in 1988.

And the platform has 48 hours to block someone. This is general law in Brazil. What was happening in Brazil is Alexandre de Moraes was ordering Twitter and some other platforms, I guess, because I'm not that dumb to think it was happening only for Twitter. Right, right. So he was addressing orders to Twitter saying, block these and that people in one hour.

If you don't do that, I will fine you in... It was, I can tell you, around $20,000, $30,000 to start. It was a huge fine, you know, daily, daily, if you do not accomplish with his orders. But the main thing is, Alexandre de Moraes ordered, according with Glenn Greenwald, the journalist, articles that came up a couple of months ago. Alexandre de Moraes was...

saying to Twitter platform, do not tell the users that are getting blocked that this order is coming from me. Oh, yeah. This is key because during 2022 elections, Brazilians got pissed off with Twitter. Because you get your cell phone and then there is a black screen saying you were blocked because you violated one of our internal policies. Sure, sure.

And then you say, but what post did I do that makes me be blocked in the platform? You don't know. These are the candidates you're speaking of? No, everybody in general. So this was happening quite broadly? You have candidates, you have regular people, you have influencers, you have YouTubers like...

Luciano Hang, for example, who is a very strong supporter of my father, he's a billionaire, he got blocked in this situation. So you are getting outside. Imagine in the United States, you are going to run for president and you cannot see what Tucker Carlson, Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, what they are posting or producing on their platforms. This was the situation in Brazil.

So I'm adding one more factor.

Yes. And Elon, he bought Twitter right between the first and the second round of the Brazilian election in October of 2022. That's why we know all of that nowadays. One year ago, we would be still pissed off at Twitter. But why? Elon Musk started a fight, I don't know, months ago, with Alexandre de Moraes. Alexandre de Moraes, he has, this justice of the Supreme Court, he has a Twitter account.

And he was talking about something, posting his opinion or whatever about something. And then Elon come, and commented, why are you demanding so much censorship in Brazil? Boom, then the things start. The chairman of the Justice Committee of the House of the US Congress, Mr. Jim Jordan,

He asked Elon Musk to give all the emails changed with the Brazilian authorities during the 2022 election period of time. Oh, yeah. With these emails, now that we know, after the report of Jim Jordan in the U.S. Congress, if you have around 500 pages in this report, you'll know. that Alexandre de Moraes, I mean, the electoral court was sending emails to Twitter saying to block people.

And some of the people, for example, the journalist Paulo Figueiredo, he only knew why he was blocked in 2022 looking to these reports. So this is the level of censorship that we had. And this is the problem because this is not only about Brazil. Oh, that's for sure. Europe authorities, Alexandre de Moraes and some other authorities of Brazil They do speeches in Paris, in London, in New York.

They are spreading the virus. And you have some press articles saying that some of the European authority, they were looking closely this fight between Alexandre de Moraes and Elon Musk to copy to Europe.

Because what happened, now I would talk with the Americans that don't know this story deeply. I'm talking about Twitter, Elon Musk against Alexandre de Moraes, right?

And then 1990, he run for congressman, so federal representative, got elected. And every four years, he stayed 28 years inside of the Congress getting reelected, mainly through the votes of the militaries and their families. So in this situation, there is a very key point around 2010, I can tell you, where the politically correct in Brazil starts to increase a lot. Around 2010.

Because as Brazil, we have this special case because the censorship is coming through the hands of one of the justices of the Supreme Court. And also, Alexandre de Moraes fined Twitter And the first response of Twitter is that they're not going to pay this fine. But after one month, they paid to get back again Twitter in Brazil because they were banned.

So the Europeans, authorities, like the woke people, the progressive, they were enjoying that. Wait a minute. So if we do that through the hands of the courts, maybe we can control Elon Musk and force them to censorship whoever I want. So this is the point. And what I would say that was shocking is that to do that, Alexandre de Moraes not only banned Twitter,

he threatened to arrest the Twitter team in Brazil.

So that's why he thanks president of Argentina, Javier Mele. He offered asylum to this kind of people. They said, publicly, through Twitter, if the Brazilians want to come to Argentina, they are more than welcome because here we do preserve the freedom and the free speech and all of that. So thank you, Javier Mele, the greatest president of Latin America by far.

And the second thing is Alexandre de Moraes freezed some of the resources of Starlink. But Starlink wasn't in the dispute.

Because Elon is not the owner of Starlink. He has, I guess, 42% of the company, but he's not the owner. You have way other people around in the same company. Details, details, details, yeah. And Bill Ackman, some other billionaires, they start to complain, wait, wait, wait. this thing of the Brazilian Supreme Court is too far. You know, it's too much power on only one person's hands.

And it can be very dangerous because we know how dictatorship starts. And when they start, usually they have support of part of the people. But on the next day, the supporters will be the target of the dictator. That's for sure. In all the dictatorships, it happens. Yeah. And this is...

one of the things that are happening in this dispute with Twitter, and that's also why the US Congress, they are giving their attention to Brazil. And nowadays, we have a bill from their representative, Maria Ovira Salazar from Florida, It was approved in the committees of the House and is ready to be voted from the House. We only need that the chairman, Mike Johnson, to put that to be vote.

And this bill says that if any foreigner authority do not respect the First Amendment of an American citizen outside of U.S., they will lose their visa to come to U.S. The country? Yeah, yeah. For example, if a Brazilian authority do not respect the free speech of Elon Musk or any other American, he is not able to come into and enter United States. He will lose his visa.

So this bill, we hope that is going to be approved in the House Because after that, I'm sure that the US administration, even more with Trump, I'm always supporting Trump, that it can be applied, fully applied. It's a way to avoid this kind of authority because they have too much power. They are doing whatever they want, even with American companies.

Yeah, around this year. And my father, he did an interview and it got, I think it was his first viral interview on internet where he's talking about a situation in a jail in Brazil. There was a jail in Brazil. The name of the jail is Pedrinhas Jail. In this jail, criminals start to kill each other.

And come on, Twitter is following all of the American and US law. Why? Brazilians are, the Brazilian Supreme Court is banning Twitter outside of Brazil. So it's a way to force people to respect the law. If the Brazilian authorities, if they were respecting the law- Right, well, the war, you know, the war is really going to be

When they are appointed for the Supreme Court, the president appoints the candidate for the Supreme Court, and the Senate, after a sabbatin, approves the name of the person. So in 2017, Alexandre de Moraes took office in the Supreme Court as a justice of the Supreme Court, and he will stay there until he completes 75 years old. So by the year of 2040-something, he will retire. I see.

So a long time. Unless he wants to resign.

The one immediately before your father. And the curious thing is, it wasn't a radical left president. It was pretty much a central right president, Michel Temer, who appointed him. No one would expect Alexandre de Moraes would do things like he's doing nowadays. I see, I see. And how do you explain it? It's establishment.

His mission was take Bolsonaro out of power and end with this spontaneous movement created not only by my father, because my father is the political leader of this right-wing conservative movement, but on the philosophy part, you have other key men that unfortunately last year passed away, Professor Olavo de Carvalho. I don't know if you've ever listened about him. He was used to live in Virginia.

several books, very smart. And he is the one who, on the philosophy side, was giving the arguments and also forming new leaders to be on key positions in Brazil to sustain this right, not right-wing movement, but this movement in favor of the morals, in favor of the honesty and what- Well, we could call it conservative. Yes, yes. You can call him as a conservative.

So it was Olavo de Carvalho on the philosophy side and my father on the political side converging to the same target, if I can say that. So the... The willing of, as I can see, of Alexandre de Moraes is to end with this movement leaded by my father.

And my father was running to be the chairman of the Human Rights Committee in the Congress, in the House. and a lot of microphones around him, and journalists start to do some dumb questions and trying to say, oh, don't you care about the life of the prisoners? They are prisoners. It's a human life. And he said, come on, you don't want to go to the jail?

Sure, yes, because if you... If you do not have social media anymore, the monopoly of information will go back against the mainstream media.

But you see, you are right. Sorry, Professor. No, no. You are right, like, but... shadow ban would not be a problem. If you have other companies on social media, alternative companies, the problem is in Brazil, rumble is not in Brazil. See, they left Brazil after do not accomplish if some of the orders of Alexandre de Moraes, they said, I'm out.

I cannot survive in a country where they do not have free speech because free speech is a value that we care here in rumble. So they left the country just like X left a little bit after rumble. And YouTube is the way that you were talking. Shadow ban, doing this, doing that, reducing the voice of the conservatives.

And sometimes you watch a Trump video and then the suggested of the next video is a video of Hillary Clinton talking some things. Yeah. But if you have the freedom to have a new social media, it will be okay. Then I have to talk again. Remember when Trump was kicked out from Twitter in January of 2021? I don't know if it happened here. It also happened in North America.

But in Brazil, people start to run to two other platforms, Parler and Getter. Getter, the CEO of Getter is Mr. Jason Miller, who is together with Trump taking care of the market of his campaign, helping Trump in his campaign. Jason Miller in 2021 went to Brazil to do a speech in the CPEC Brazil. I do organize the CPEC in Brazil. It's the largest gathering of the conservatives all around the world.

We have the Brazilian version. Right, right. After doing his speech, he went back to the airport And guess what? Alexandre de Moraes ordered the federal police to go there and detain Jason Miller. Jason Miller, an American citizen, stayed almost four hours in a Brazilian airport because the federal police officers wanted him to sign some papers written in Portuguese.

It's just to do not rob, do not murder, do not kidnap anyone else, and start to say some bad words because it was very explosive. And this interview came very viral. And at that time, I was in the federal police. I'm a lawyer. And I was in the federal police. My first service was on the border between Brazil and Bolivia. And then I moved myself. I was transferred to Sao Paulo.

He said, I don't know Portuguese. What is written there? They called someone from the street to do the translation. And Jason Miller said, am I under investigation? Am I a testimony? What is going on here? So after some time, a lawyer come, helped Jason Miller. He didn't sign nothing, but it was embarrassing, this situation.