PBD Podcast
Brazil: Corrupt Alexandre de Moraes EXPOSED | Eduardo Bolsonaro, Nikolas Ferreira | PBD Podcast #409
Fri, 21 Feb 2025
Patrick Bet-David sits down with the new leaders of the Brazilian conservative movement Eduardo Bolsonaro, Nikolas Ferreira, Gustavo Gayer, and Paulo Figueiredo Filho to discuss censorship, corruption, and lawfare. In this exclusive conversation with Jair Bolsonaro's son, Eduardo, you will get a better grasp of what's going on in Brazil and why Elon Musk is worried about it.----Eduardo Bolsonaro https://www.instagram.com/bolsonarosp/https://x.com/bolsonarosp/https://eventoconservador.com.br/https://acaoconservadora.com.br/Our Guests:Nikolas Ferreira https://linktr.ee/nikolasferreiraGustavo Gayer https://linktr.ee/gusgayerPaulo Figueiredo Filhohttps://x.com/realpfigueiredohttps://paulofigueiredoshow.com/---THE MINNECT LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP: Want your shot to win dinner with Patrick Bet-David? Win "The Minnect League Championship": https://bit.ly/4aMAar8 MINNECT: Connect one-on-one with the right expert for you on Minnect: https://bit.ly/3MC9IXE Connect with Patrick Bet-David on Minnect: https://bit.ly/3OoiGIC Connect with Adam Sosnick on Minnect: https://bit.ly/42mnnc4 Connect with Tom Ellsworth on Minnect: https://bit.ly/3UgJjmR Connect with Vincent Oshana on Minnect: https://bit.ly/47TFCXq Connect with Rob Garguilo on Minnect: https://bit.ly/426IG0RCHOOSE YOUR ENEMIES WISELY: Purchase PBD's Book "Choose Your Enemies Wisely": https://bit.ly/41bTtGDBET-DAVID CONSULTING: Get best-in-class business advice with Bet-David Consulting: https://bit.ly/40oUafzVT.COM: Visit VT.com for the latest news and insights from the world of politics, business and entertainment: https://bit.ly/472R3Mz VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: Visit Valuetainment University for the best courses online for entrepreneurs: https://bit.ly/47gKVA0TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!YOUR NEXT 5 MOVES: Want to be clear on your next 5 business moves? https://bit.ly/3Qzrj3mABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
Chapter 1: Who are the key figures in the Brazilian conservative movement?
Von meinem Großvater bis zu seinem Vater. Und dann hat sein Vater alles verändert. So, his background was that he was secretary of security, right? Yeah, safety, public safety in the state of Sao Paulo. And then he was, when Dilma Rousseff was impeached, he was called to be the minister of justice of Dilma Rousseff, a vice president that then became president, a gentleman called Michel Temer.
Also er wurde von Michel Temer angemeldet, der mehr vom Zentrum kam, um der Justiz des Supreme Court zu sein. Rob, kannst du Michel Temer aufrufen, bitte? Lass uns weitergehen. Damals, was sehr interessant ist, ist, dass damals die Arbeiterpartei für ihn gebeten hat, dass er verabschiedet wird. Sie haben versucht, in jeder Weise, die sie konnten, um ihn als Supreme Court Justiz zu vermeiden.
Sie waren wirklich stark dagegen. But things started changing in 2019. So in 2019, Jair Bolsonaro got elected in 2018. He took office in 2019. And at the same time, Operation Car Wash was starting to investigate corruption from the Supreme Court. involving some figures from the Supreme Court. That include another justice called Gilmar Mendes.
No, no, it's M-I-C-H-E-L. Michel Temer. Michael Temer. M-I-C-H-E-L-E-M-E-R. Yeah, that's him. Yeah, that's him.
Ja, dieser ist der Vizepräsident von Duma.
2019?
Ich würde sagen, dass die meisten von uns... Wir wussten nicht, wer er war. Nein, nein, aber wir, ich meine, wir haben ihn meistens als Supreme Court Justice unterstützt, weil wir ihn nicht als einen Tyran denken. Wir wussten nicht, dass er ein Psychopath war.
We didn't know about that.
Because that's the thing about psychopaths.
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Chapter 2: What is Alexandre de Moraes' role in Brazil's political landscape?
We did great during my father's administration. It was the first time that in Brazil we had less inflation than in the United States, for example.
And interesting to know. This is just two years. We need more. Like I need more than 2019. But okay, so under your father went all the way down to right there. We can kind of see. Go back to that. So 2020, so this is inflation broke 10% in September. Is there a pandemic? Yeah.
I think there is a better one down there. It's a red one.
It's important to know that the current sitting president of the Brazilian Central Bank... No, no, it's 95. The Brazilian Central Bank, which is our Fed, the president is still the guy that was appointed by Bolsonaro. So they didn't have a chance to mess up with the monetary policy yet.
That's a good one. In 2016, it was like Dilma Rousseff that got impeached. Can you see it's like the same level as we are facing now? And in the middle, guess what? Bolsonaro. Wie viele Jahre war er in?
Die Jahre sind sehr niedrig. Michel Temer von 2017 bis 2020. Und dann kam Covid. Bolsonaro und dann die Pandemie. Und die Pandemie ist überall. Es ist nicht nur in Brasilien. Brasilien ist besser geblieben als in anderen Ländern der Welt. Wir hatten unsere GDP höher als in China.
And for the first time in my life, Brazil has had an actual lower inflation than the US.
In my life, that never happened. So it's not, but go to 2024 inflation, Rob. Just go 2024 Brazil inflation. It's not out of control. That's what I want to know. So it's not that painful right now in Brazil.
Because it's just a year and a half that Lula took office. And the guy who is in the central bank is the guy that Bolsonaro chose. He's going to change now in the middle of this year, I think June, right? Because the president chooses the director of the central bank and stays two years in one office and two years in the next office. So now he's going to be out.
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Chapter 3: How does censorship affect political discourse in Brazil?
Ich weiß Uruguay, aber wer sind sie? Sind sie vier? Wie denken sie?
Es ist nicht extrem links, oder? Uruguay, Argentina, Paraguay, Ecuador.
Luis Suarez ist aus Uruguay, oder? Ja, Luis Suarez ist aus La Calepo. Er ist zentral rechts, kann ich sagen. Er ist zentral rechts. Okay, verstehe. Ich versuche gerade zu denken, wie... Manchmal wollen Nachbarn, die nicht sehen wollen, was in einem Land passiert, und versuchen, zu den Besten ihrer Fähigkeiten zu helfen. Was macht Milet?
Ist Milet überhaupt über Brasilien gesprochen, oder nicht überhaupt?
Ja, er hat sogar durch seinen Kanzler Diana Mondino, sie hat getwittert, für die Ex-Mitarbeiter, die in Brasilien waren, Asyl zu bieten, weil Elon Musk sogar Nikolas Ferreira antwortete, dass wenn alle Ex-Mitarbeiter, wenn sie in einem sicheren Ort waren, Elon Musk mehr Informationen über das, was in dieser Beziehung mit Alexandre de Moraes geht. Also das ist ein Punkt.
He's in favor of the free speech and he's helping doing that. And now, during the flutes that we have in the south of Brazil, he also offered some structures, helicopters, if I'm not wrong, some boats. And I'm not sure if the federal government, if Lula da Silva did accept that, I'm not sure. But Uruguay was also offering some help. I'm just checking here. Yes, Argentina offered help.
It's in the screen over there.
Ich sagte Gazeta. Welcher? Nein, der ist nicht da. Argentinien bietet Hilfe Brasilien.
Argentinien bietet Hilfe Brasilien.
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