Edward Gibson

That's right. Not at all. Okay. And so that's our control. And this guy had gone down there before and said that they couldn't do this task, but I just don't know what he did wrong there because they can do this task perfectly well. And I can train my dog to do this task. So of course they can do this task. And so it's not a hard task.

But the other task that was sort of more interesting is like, so then we do a bunch of tasks where you need... some way to encode the set. So like one of them is just, I just put a opaque sheet in front of the things. I put down a bunch, a set of these things and I put an opaque sheet down. And so you can't see them anymore. And I tell you, do the same thing you were doing before, right?

But the other task that was sort of more interesting is like, so then we do a bunch of tasks where you need... some way to encode the set. So like one of them is just, I just put a opaque sheet in front of the things. I put down a bunch, a set of these things and I put an opaque sheet down. And so you can't see them anymore. And I tell you, do the same thing you were doing before, right?

But the other task that was sort of more interesting is like, so then we do a bunch of tasks where you need... some way to encode the set. So like one of them is just, I just put a opaque sheet in front of the things. I put down a bunch, a set of these things and I put an opaque sheet down. And so you can't see them anymore. And I tell you, do the same thing you were doing before, right?

You know, and it's easy if it's two or three, it's very easy. But if I don't have the words for eight, it's a little harder. Like maybe, you know, with practice went, well, no,

You know, and it's easy if it's two or three, it's very easy. But if I don't have the words for eight, it's a little harder. Like maybe, you know, with practice went, well, no,

You know, and it's easy if it's two or three, it's very easy. But if I don't have the words for eight, it's a little harder. Like maybe, you know, with practice went, well, no,

For us, it's easy because we just count them. It's just so easy to count them. But they can't count them because they don't count. They don't have words for this thing. And so they would do approximate. It's totally fascinating. So they would get them approximately right after four or five. Basically, you always get four right, three or four. That's something we can visually see.

For us, it's easy because we just count them. It's just so easy to count them. But they can't count them because they don't count. They don't have words for this thing. And so they would do approximate. It's totally fascinating. So they would get them approximately right after four or five. Basically, you always get four right, three or four. That's something we can visually see.

For us, it's easy because we just count them. It's just so easy to count them. But they can't count them because they don't count. They don't have words for this thing. And so they would do approximate. It's totally fascinating. So they would get them approximately right after four or five. Basically, you always get four right, three or four. That's something we can visually see.

But after that, you kind of have... It's an approximate number. And so then... And there's a bunch of tasks we did and they all failed as... I mean, failed. They did approximate after five on all those tasks. And it kind of shows that the words... You kind of need the words to be able to do these kinds of tasks.

But after that, you kind of have... It's an approximate number. And so then... And there's a bunch of tasks we did and they all failed as... I mean, failed. They did approximate after five on all those tasks. And it kind of shows that the words... You kind of need the words to be able to do these kinds of tasks.

But after that, you kind of have... It's an approximate number. And so then... And there's a bunch of tasks we did and they all failed as... I mean, failed. They did approximate after five on all those tasks. And it kind of shows that the words... You kind of need the words to be able to do these kinds of tasks.

Yeah, here language is just, is the words. Here is the words. Like the words for exact count is the limiting factor here. They just don't have them.

Yeah, here language is just, is the words. Here is the words. Like the words for exact count is the limiting factor here. They just don't have them.

Yeah, here language is just, is the words. Here is the words. Like the words for exact count is the limiting factor here. They just don't have them.

That's going to be true, yeah. So it's probably, I mean, we don't know. This is one of those problems with the snapshot of just current languages is that we don't know what causes a culture to discover slash invent a counting system. But the hypothesis is, the guess out there is something to do with farming. So if you have a bunch of goats, And you want to keep track of them.

That's going to be true, yeah. So it's probably, I mean, we don't know. This is one of those problems with the snapshot of just current languages is that we don't know what causes a culture to discover slash invent a counting system. But the hypothesis is, the guess out there is something to do with farming. So if you have a bunch of goats, And you want to keep track of them.

That's going to be true, yeah. So it's probably, I mean, we don't know. This is one of those problems with the snapshot of just current languages is that we don't know what causes a culture to discover slash invent a counting system. But the hypothesis is, the guess out there is something to do with farming. So if you have a bunch of goats, And you want to keep track of them.

And say you have 17 goats and you go to bed at night and you get up in the morning. Boy, it's easier to have a count system to do that. That's an abstraction over a set. People often ask me when I talk to them about this kind of work, they say, well, don't these Purahas, don't they have kids? Don't they have a lot of children? I'm like, yeah, they have a lot of children. And they do.