Ehsan Ahmad

The internet in 2001, there was no social media.

It was a different kind of internet.

But this guy, his former company was getting no bid contracts for billions of dollars to fix shit that we blew up in a war that was his idea.

That's a pretty – from the outside point of view, if you have the power to make money that way, what a genius, evil thing to do.

So profitable.

I know.

Just billions of dollars.

Enough that he didn't need a heart anymore.

What do you – like how do you combat that with the idea also in place that capitalism is way better than communism, which I think we all agree?

So how do you combat that?

I don't –

I think I'm maybe a little more cynical than most people because I just the way I look at it now is like I don't think you can because I think whatever system that you end up putting in place, regardless, there are the haves and the have nots.

Right, but is there a way to minimize it?

Is there a way to make it less available?

Like it seems like – I'm just guessing.

Without violence?

I've never been a congressman.

I'm just guessing.

But my friend Tulsi was a congresswoman for eight years.

Right.