Ehsan Ahmad

It's like you can't say that.

It's like that's a – it's also a poor strategy.

Right.

Because is it – you really want to convince people that you're correct.

You don't do it that way.

You don't just immediately go to Nazi, Nazi apologists, Holocaust denier.

Well, you're just trying to scare them.

You don't immediately go to that.

You should be engaging on the issues.

The problem is the facts of the issues are horrific.

The numbers are fucking horrific.

Yeah, it's like, what do you want us to do?

You want us to pretend, because we're afraid of being labeled anti-Semitic, you want us to pretend that that's normal?

Like, what do you want, what are we doing?

It's, the whole thing is fucking crazy.

And this doesn't, like, dismiss that what Hamas did was evil either.

Right.

Like, it's not, no one's saying that.

Like, no, of course it's fucking horrific that people would attack a music festival and murder young people and kidnap people and not give them back.

And yeah, they definitely should give them back.