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but like a challenge 25 kind of it's subjective to what you think 16 year olds might look like so how do you it's weird territory but I don't want to get into it because it makes me feel sick another little Coachella drama I don't know if you've seen this

I've seen a lot of this.

So surely it's not happened that much.

No, I think it does.

I think you know what it's like sometimes when jobs are like literally dangling like a carrot and you go, I'm really looking forward to doing this.

And the next minute it's like, oh, we've just taken things in a different direction.

We're no longer doing it at all.

You're like...

we were about to sign a contract but I was excited but I was looking forward to it like that happens quite a lot so I do think that maybe people have either you know overdone their budget or they've maybe went we've asked too many people yeah that happens quite a lot with brand deals actually what will happen is a brand will say we actually want five people to do it this is what we've got budget wise we want them to do it but it'll ask 10 people yeah and see who they get back

see who gets back first see if they all get back and then the top five that they wanted they will just go it's going in another direction so I do think it has happened so one of the people or two of the people they're twins Lucy and Lydia yeah OG YouTube girls they made a video and they're super upset in it right and it's actually

This is the spin.

But hold on, they did all the work.

Yes.

And do you know what really annoys me about that?

People will turn around and go...

because it's not a tangible product time and effort is not tangible property it's that's what it is right how do you prove the worth of that they should have turned around and went by the way we're not actually going to go ahead and use you guys to like actually market this whole thing and arrange it but we do love your idea can we come to an arrangement where we take your idea here's the fee but we take the reins yeah

But then how do you say that?

see the thing with that right what i would say is when you have the internet you do think right all my ideas are original they're completely unique and they're they're my own right and then you'll see something and go but i was thinking about that like the other week i was going to do that exact outfit or that exact whatever and you go god i'm really not that unique everyone has like the same kind of thoughts yeah that's different no that is different as hours and hours hand-picked influencers and the full thing from start to finish and then being right

do you just not just go like at the same time though like maybe there's just another part to it that's yet to come out no I think it's just a brand being sneaky right here's the best outcome that can happen from this for those two girls right we now need the next big thing whether I mean surely it's not Coachella next year right surely it's something else but maybe maybe it's Coachella next year we need another brand Bondi Sands or someone else to go yeah

off the back of these two girls being snubbed by another brand, we're now doing this and that then needs to be their viral moment.