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So he said they nodded a hello. He did, too. Yeah. And then they just kept walking. Now, later that afternoon, and nothing came of that. Yeah. So they were just like, whatever. Later that afternoon, Steve and Ellen ran into that same man from the beach again. This time, while they were hiking Ridge Trail on Mount Tam. When he saw them, he said, oh, I see we run into each other again.
So he said they nodded a hello. He did, too. Yeah. And then they just kept walking. Now, later that afternoon, and nothing came of that. Yeah. So they were just like, whatever. Later that afternoon, Steve and Ellen ran into that same man from the beach again. This time, while they were hiking Ridge Trail on Mount Tam. When he saw them, he said, oh, I see we run into each other again.
So they just kind of were like, huh, yeah, like weird. And then as they're being like, oh, yeah, that's like funny. As they're saying that, he reached into the waistband of his pants and produced a revolver. Can you imagine? You just see this man again. And he's like, oh, funny we run into each other again. And you're like, yeah, and he just puts a gun in your face.
So they just kind of were like, huh, yeah, like weird. And then as they're being like, oh, yeah, that's like funny. As they're saying that, he reached into the waistband of his pants and produced a revolver. Can you imagine? You just see this man again. And he's like, oh, funny we run into each other again. And you're like, yeah, and he just puts a gun in your face.
Like, why did I cross this man's path again? Now, at the time, Steve was fixated on the man's hands, which he later described as extraordinarily white and clean, which is strange. Huh. He also noticed the strange way that the man was holding the gun. He said it was like very specific. He said he had pulled back the hammer, but had his thumb between the hammer and the firing pin.
Like, why did I cross this man's path again? Now, at the time, Steve was fixated on the man's hands, which he later described as extraordinarily white and clean, which is strange. Huh. He also noticed the strange way that the man was holding the gun. He said it was like very specific. He said he had pulled back the hammer, but had his thumb between the hammer and the firing pin.
Yeah. So if the hammer slipped, it would hit his thumb rather than discharging a bullet too. Right. Like, which is strange. The man said, if you don't want to get hurt, do what I say. Put your hands on your head and you won't get hurt. So he was like, this is weird. So he's thinking we're just being robbed. Because he also, him putting his finger, his thumb between that.
Yeah. So if the hammer slipped, it would hit his thumb rather than discharging a bullet too. Right. Like, which is strange. The man said, if you don't want to get hurt, do what I say. Put your hands on your head and you won't get hurt. So he was like, this is weird. So he's thinking we're just being robbed. Because he also, him putting his finger, his thumb between that.
Probably disarmed him a little bit. Probably made him think like, okay, even if he pulls the trigger, we're not being fired at. So to me, that would probably make me be like, okay, this guy's bluffing. Right. Like, this is fucked up.
Probably disarmed him a little bit. Probably made him think like, okay, even if he pulls the trigger, we're not being fired at. So to me, that would probably make me be like, okay, this guy's bluffing. Right. Like, this is fucked up.
And I think that's why Steve was like, okay, I think he's just robbing us and he's trying to threaten us with a gun. Yeah. So Steve pushed Ellen out of the way and thrust his wallet at this man. But the man was like, no. And this is one of the most chilling things I have ever heard. Oh, no. He said to him, I don't want any money. I want something else. You know what I mean.
And I think that's why Steve was like, okay, I think he's just robbing us and he's trying to threaten us with a gun. Yeah. So Steve pushed Ellen out of the way and thrust his wallet at this man. But the man was like, no. And this is one of the most chilling things I have ever heard. Oh, no. He said to him, I don't want any money. I want something else. You know what I mean.
All I want to do is rape her.
All I want to do is rape her.
Said this to her boyfriend. Steve was probably like, what the actual fuck?
Said this to her boyfriend. Steve was probably like, what the actual fuck?
And imagine Ellen being like, Like, what the fuck? Like, I, what do you do in that scenario?
And imagine Ellen being like, Like, what the fuck? Like, I, what do you do in that scenario?
And it didn't, it's so scary. It's like so scary. And apparently it didn't occur to Steve in the moment, but he later said that the man was slowly pushing them back off the trail and into the woods as this was happening. And Steve and Ellen were moving backwards and he was just kind of like advancing on them. Just to create space. And like, he's like getting them out of the way.
And it didn't, it's so scary. It's like so scary. And apparently it didn't occur to Steve in the moment, but he later said that the man was slowly pushing them back off the trail and into the woods as this was happening. And Steve and Ellen were moving backwards and he was just kind of like advancing on them. Just to create space. And like, he's like getting them out of the way.