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Like, so it was just a very specific thing. As they passed, Lee and the other driver made direct eye contact with one another... And it occurred to him that it was the same man that he'd passed on the trail just before he found Steve. God, can you imagine? And he said he yelled, there goes the person I think committed the crime. But he said, at the moment, I had to get Steve to a hospital.

Like, so it was just a very specific thing. As they passed, Lee and the other driver made direct eye contact with one another... And it occurred to him that it was the same man that he'd passed on the trail just before he found Steve. God, can you imagine? And he said he yelled, there goes the person I think committed the crime. But he said, at the moment, I had to get Steve to a hospital.

I was worried he was going to die. Like, I couldn't stop and try to apprehend this man.

I was worried he was going to die. Like, I couldn't stop and try to apprehend this man.

You have to weigh out what is more important. He's like, so I just had to get Steve to where he needed to go. Now, despite the serious physical and psychological trauma that he'd endured, Steve was able to provide a very detailed description of the killer. That's incredible. And he used that description to refine the existing composite of the sketch of the suspect. Nice.

You have to weigh out what is more important. He's like, so I just had to get Steve to where he needed to go. Now, despite the serious physical and psychological trauma that he'd endured, Steve was able to provide a very detailed description of the killer. That's incredible. And he used that description to refine the existing composite of the sketch of the suspect. Nice.

The problem, though, was that they still had no one to match the drawing to. And unfortunately, it was going to take one more murder before this man was finally identified as David Carpenter. Jesus Christ. Now, with the exception of the attack on Lois D'Andrati in 1960, all of David Carpenter's victims were completely unknown to him and were just kind of like victims of opportunity, unfortunately.

The problem, though, was that they still had no one to match the drawing to. And unfortunately, it was going to take one more murder before this man was finally identified as David Carpenter. Jesus Christ. Now, with the exception of the attack on Lois D'Andrati in 1960, all of David Carpenter's victims were completely unknown to him and were just kind of like victims of opportunity, unfortunately.

For that reason, it's really strange that in choosing his last victim here... He chose someone that he knew, like, pretty well and could easily be traced back to him with very minimal effort. Because, again, psychologically, he's unwinding. He's unwinding.

For that reason, it's really strange that in choosing his last victim here... He chose someone that he knew, like, pretty well and could easily be traced back to him with very minimal effort. Because, again, psychologically, he's unwinding. He's unwinding.

Now, on May 2nd, 1981, just one month after the murder of Alan Hansen and the attempted murder of Steve Haerdel, 20-year-old Heather Skaggs was attending the same trade school where David Carpenter was working as a printer. And she mentioned that she was looking to buy a used car since hers had finally broken down for good.

Now, on May 2nd, 1981, just one month after the murder of Alan Hansen and the attempted murder of Steve Haerdel, 20-year-old Heather Skaggs was attending the same trade school where David Carpenter was working as a printer. And she mentioned that she was looking to buy a used car since hers had finally broken down for good.

Well, as it happened, Carpenter told her he had a friend in Santa Cruz who had a car for sale at a pretty good price, and he was happy to drive her over there after they both finished their shifts. If she could get the car, Carpenter pointed out he could help her get a job at the school. Heather agreed, you know, but there were two things she did find unusual about this whole thing.

Well, as it happened, Carpenter told her he had a friend in Santa Cruz who had a car for sale at a pretty good price, and he was happy to drive her over there after they both finished their shifts. If she could get the car, Carpenter pointed out he could help her get a job at the school. Heather agreed, you know, but there were two things she did find unusual about this whole thing.

Carpenter had told her to bring cash and not tell anyone when she was going. Okay, that's strange. Yeah. So Heather's mother, Mary Joan Skaggs, said that Heather called her that afternoon and seemed upset and was like, I feel like something's weird about this. She actually broke into tears at one point. She said it doesn't feel right. Yeah.

Carpenter had told her to bring cash and not tell anyone when she was going. Okay, that's strange. Yeah. So Heather's mother, Mary Joan Skaggs, said that Heather called her that afternoon and seemed upset and was like, I feel like something's weird about this. She actually broke into tears at one point. She said it doesn't feel right. Yeah.

So her mother begged her, like, trust your instincts. Don't go with this guy. But Heather was like, I can't pass up the opportunity for a job, which is so sad. I know. And so she told her mom, don't worry. Don't worry about it, mom. Just wish that somebody else could have given her a ride. I know. And that was the last time Mary Joan Skaggs talked to her daughter. Oh, my God.

So her mother begged her, like, trust your instincts. Don't go with this guy. But Heather was like, I can't pass up the opportunity for a job, which is so sad. I know. And so she told her mom, don't worry. Don't worry about it, mom. Just wish that somebody else could have given her a ride. I know. And that was the last time Mary Joan Skaggs talked to her daughter. Oh, my God.

Now, later that night, when no one had heard from Heather, some of her friends reached out to David Carpenter for information, actually, because they knew the two had plans that afternoon. Because some people were there when they made these plans. Yeah. But David claimed that they hadn't met up as planned because, quote, he overslept and had car trouble. Okay.

Now, later that night, when no one had heard from Heather, some of her friends reached out to David Carpenter for information, actually, because they knew the two had plans that afternoon. Because some people were there when they made these plans. Yeah. But David claimed that they hadn't met up as planned because, quote, he overslept and had car trouble. Okay.