Elena

Well, you always have to see what they look like, too. Yes, that is a trip. That is a trip if you look him up.

Well, you always have to see what they look like, too. Yes, that is a trip. That is a trip if you look him up.

He came off almost clean cut. No, literally. Yeah, he did. You know, like he very much was. It's actually interesting that they called him the hippie killer. Because he doesn't look like a hippie. So he's called the hippie killer, I think not because he's the hippie in this scenario. For killing hippies? While he had some hippie ideals, he also had disdain for hippies. Oh, okay.

He came off almost clean cut. No, literally. Yeah, he did. You know, like he very much was. It's actually interesting that they called him the hippie killer. Because he doesn't look like a hippie. So he's called the hippie killer, I think not because he's the hippie in this scenario. For killing hippies? While he had some hippie ideals, he also had disdain for hippies. Oh, okay.

So I think this is like a double-edged sword here.

So I think this is like a double-edged sword here.

Yeah, he was very confused. Yes. I would say. Yeah. And what we'll see with Herbert Mullen, too, is he is mentally ill, obviously.

Yeah, he was very confused. Yes. I would say. Yeah. And what we'll see with Herbert Mullen, too, is he is mentally ill, obviously.

But he is not insane. He knows what he's doing.

But he is not insane. He knows what he's doing.

Yeah. And we will see instances where he covers up things or makes sure he takes bullet casings. Right. He doesn't have diminished capacity in the sense that he doesn't know what he's doing is wrong. Yeah. So you can hold on to that as like, fuck this guy. Yeah. Yeah. But the last we talked about him, he had, you know, he had killed Mary Guilfoyle. He had killed Lawrence White.

Yeah. And we will see instances where he covers up things or makes sure he takes bullet casings. Right. He doesn't have diminished capacity in the sense that he doesn't know what he's doing is wrong. Yeah. So you can hold on to that as like, fuck this guy. Yeah. Yeah. But the last we talked about him, he had, you know, he had killed Mary Guilfoyle. He had killed Lawrence White.

He had killed a literal priest in a confessional. Yep. And he is now wondering whether he is doing things correctly. That's quite a time to ponder that. He's wondering if he's, you know, if this is the mission he's supposed to be taking. And so he starts, and he's also thinking like, okay, I don't think I'm stopping an impending disaster from happening.

He had killed a literal priest in a confessional. Yep. And he is now wondering whether he is doing things correctly. That's quite a time to ponder that. He's wondering if he's, you know, if this is the mission he's supposed to be taking. And so he starts, and he's also thinking like, okay, I don't think I'm stopping an impending disaster from happening.

So when we last left you, I said that he was also, the voices in his head that he said were in there included his father's voice at this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was now considering whether he could find a more morally righteous way to continue this mission of his. You've already killed three people, so it's a little too late. There's no, like, turn back now. Well, and also, like...

So when we last left you, I said that he was also, the voices in his head that he said were in there included his father's voice at this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was now considering whether he could find a more morally righteous way to continue this mission of his. You've already killed three people, so it's a little too late. There's no, like, turn back now. Well, and also, like...

The mission is to sacrifice, so there's really no morally righteous way to do that. No, there's not. What he was thinking in January 1973 was that he could join the military. Oh. So he tried to convince his father to allow him to join the military, and he submitted an application to the U.S. Marine Corps.

The mission is to sacrifice, so there's really no morally righteous way to do that. No, there's not. What he was thinking in January 1973 was that he could join the military. Oh. So he tried to convince his father to allow him to join the military, and he submitted an application to the U.S. Marine Corps.

In Martin Mullen's mind, which is his father, the Marines would give his son some stability, some direction, help him grow out of whatever phase he was in. It's not a phase, Dad. It's not a phase, Dad. But from Herbert Mullen's perspective, the military is kind of ideal for him because he could, one, make his father proud of him finally.

In Martin Mullen's mind, which is his father, the Marines would give his son some stability, some direction, help him grow out of whatever phase he was in. It's not a phase, Dad. It's not a phase, Dad. But from Herbert Mullen's perspective, the military is kind of ideal for him because he could, one, make his father proud of him finally.