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And a press release the following day, Sheriff Doug James stated there appear to be drug overtones in the case. And when they did finally locate Robert Francis, he was ruled out immediately as a suspect. Yeah. Now, not wanting to cause panic, Santa Cruz police captain Dick Overton urged residents to, quote unquote, keep cool. Stay cool, man. Babe. Just stay cool. Don't be all like uncool.
And a press release the following day, Sheriff Doug James stated there appear to be drug overtones in the case. And when they did finally locate Robert Francis, he was ruled out immediately as a suspect. Yeah. Now, not wanting to cause panic, Santa Cruz police captain Dick Overton urged residents to, quote unquote, keep cool. Stay cool, man. Babe. Just stay cool. Don't be all like uncool.
And he said, just go about your daily lives as normal. Keep cool. Two families have been slaughtered, but like. Yeah. Keep it chill, man. And also he said, this is not a case of somebody running amok and shooting people.
And he said, just go about your daily lives as normal. Keep cool. Two families have been slaughtered, but like. Yeah. Keep it chill, man. And also he said, this is not a case of somebody running amok and shooting people.
This thing has a pattern to it. It's not a case of some crazy man running around shooting people. No, that's literally exactly what it is, sir. And what basis do you have to state otherwise? So since the murders of the Ota family two years earlier, we talked about them in part one.
This thing has a pattern to it. It's not a case of some crazy man running around shooting people. No, that's literally exactly what it is, sir. And what basis do you have to state otherwise? So since the murders of the Ota family two years earlier, we talked about them in part one.
And the recent disappearances of a local, a number of local college girls. Thanks to Ed Kemper. Santa Cruz residents had started arming themselves. I would. Which Overton knew increased the potential for an accidental shooting to happen.
And the recent disappearances of a local, a number of local college girls. Thanks to Ed Kemper. Santa Cruz residents had started arming themselves. I would. Which Overton knew increased the potential for an accidental shooting to happen.
But while his desire to avoid, you know, like panicking the public and having some accidents happen that could have some real consequences, he was very wrong because this was one of the rare incidences of someone, quote, running amok and shooting people at random. This literally was. Yeah. Now, the more time that passed, the more kind of like adept Herbert got at justifying his murders.
But while his desire to avoid, you know, like panicking the public and having some accidents happen that could have some real consequences, he was very wrong because this was one of the rare incidences of someone, quote, running amok and shooting people at random. This literally was. Yeah. Now, the more time that passed, the more kind of like adept Herbert got at justifying his murders.
He was able to convince himself that, which shows you also that he was doing some real mental gymnastics here to make it. Yeah. It's like you just shot and killed two kids. What are you doing? Exactly. An investigator's inability to connect the crimes only served as further evidence of his divine purpose in his mind. Because he's not getting caught. Exactly.
He was able to convince himself that, which shows you also that he was doing some real mental gymnastics here to make it. Yeah. It's like you just shot and killed two kids. What are you doing? Exactly. An investigator's inability to connect the crimes only served as further evidence of his divine purpose in his mind. Because he's not getting caught. Exactly.
By February, he had stopped taking drugs altogether and replaced his drug use with long hikes in the mountains around Santa Cruz. Which...
By February, he had stopped taking drugs altogether and replaced his drug use with long hikes in the mountains around Santa Cruz. Which...
my goodness i wish you had done that your whole life yeah just do that instead literally take a hike yeah take a hike now on the morning of february 10th he went out for a hike in henry cowell state park just off highway 9 not far from where lawrence white's body was discovered and these hikes he said gave him time away from his parents you know gave him peace gave him a little quiet made his head feel clear why the fuck were you doing this forever
my goodness i wish you had done that your whole life yeah just do that instead literally take a hike yeah take a hike now on the morning of february 10th he went out for a hike in henry cowell state park just off highway 9 not far from where lawrence white's body was discovered and these hikes he said gave him time away from his parents you know gave him peace gave him a little quiet made his head feel clear why the fuck were you doing this forever
So he loved these. Like, this was his moment of, like, peace. Yeah. So he was very irritated when he came across four teenagers camping in the woods that morning.
So he loved these. Like, this was his moment of, like, peace. Yeah. So he was very irritated when he came across four teenagers camping in the woods that morning.
Yeah, how dare they do a thing they're allowed to do. In nature. Like what? Yeah. The teens, 18-year-old David Olicker, 18-year-old Robert Spector, 19-year-old Brian Scott Card, and 15-year-old Mark... Drabelbis, I believe is how you say it, had come to the area a few days earlier and they'd been living at like, like they'd made themselves like a little lean to. Oh, okay.
Yeah, how dare they do a thing they're allowed to do. In nature. Like what? Yeah. The teens, 18-year-old David Olicker, 18-year-old Robert Spector, 19-year-old Brian Scott Card, and 15-year-old Mark... Drabelbis, I believe is how you say it, had come to the area a few days earlier and they'd been living at like, like they'd made themselves like a little lean to. Oh, okay.