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Because they felt it was a better outcome than the social ostracization.
Because they felt it was a better outcome than the social ostracization.
Oh, I was kind of saying it wrong. Ostracization. Ostracization. That's hard to say. Yeah. Okay. It was better than being ostracized by society is what I'm thinking here.
Oh, I was kind of saying it wrong. Ostracization. Ostracization. That's hard to say. Yeah. Okay. It was better than being ostracized by society is what I'm thinking here.
So, yeah, so this was like a big deal. It's not great. So she knew she had to hide out. She couldn't be around everybody. She went back to her family's farm and she communicated with Chester through letters. It was Chester who encouraged this, in fact, telling her to go hang out with her family and everything was going to be fine. Basically, go away. Get out of my face. Like, you fucking dick.
So, yeah, so this was like a big deal. It's not great. So she knew she had to hide out. She couldn't be around everybody. She went back to her family's farm and she communicated with Chester through letters. It was Chester who encouraged this, in fact, telling her to go hang out with her family and everything was going to be fine. Basically, go away. Get out of my face. Like, you fucking dick.
He's a total dick. He was very negligent with her feelings, very much still sleeping around and very uninterested in the idea of being a good partner or father. But he was also a liar and a very good manipulator. He had to have been. It's that kind of guy. So he had to keep her on a leash a bit because he was a guy who wanted to have his cake and eat it too.
He's a total dick. He was very negligent with her feelings, very much still sleeping around and very uninterested in the idea of being a good partner or father. But he was also a liar and a very good manipulator. He had to have been. It's that kind of guy. So he had to keep her on a leash a bit because he was a guy who wanted to have his cake and eat it too.
Before she left, he had been ignoring her and making her feel just awful. But when the letters began, she basically found herself desperately begging him for attention or any kind of hope or hint that they would be married.
Before she left, he had been ignoring her and making her feel just awful. But when the letters began, she basically found herself desperately begging him for attention or any kind of hope or hint that they would be married.
And she's like, so she's basically like, give me any hope that you're going to marry me so that I can go out into society. Right. I can't go out with this child until we're married. And like, and so, you know, and she started getting the attention that she was looking for. He started telling her, yes, he would marry her and they would have a life together and just wait. It's going to be fine.
And she's like, so she's basically like, give me any hope that you're going to marry me so that I can go out into society. Right. I can't go out with this child until we're married. And like, and so, you know, and she started getting the attention that she was looking for. He started telling her, yes, he would marry her and they would have a life together and just wait. It's going to be fine.
Like he started promising what he knew she wanted.
Like he started promising what he knew she wanted.
No. Then one letter changed that. He told her he wanted to whisk her away for a romantic getaway.
No. Then one letter changed that. He told her he wanted to whisk her away for a romantic getaway.
Oh, yeah. He told her he wanted to take her to the Adirondacks in July. And this felt like the moment that he was going to propose. She thought this was the wedding trip. Of course. Either proposing or we're actually getting married. And sources say Grace was just over the moon excited. So they left in July and stopped at the Hotel Glenmore at Big Moose Lake. And they ate at Alta Cliff Cottage.
Oh, yeah. He told her he wanted to take her to the Adirondacks in July. And this felt like the moment that he was going to propose. She thought this was the wedding trip. Of course. Either proposing or we're actually getting married. And sources say Grace was just over the moon excited. So they left in July and stopped at the Hotel Glenmore at Big Moose Lake. And they ate at Alta Cliff Cottage.
And they checked in with him using an alias. So that's fucking weird. He used the alias Carl Graham and she used her real name. So that was already what's going on. I'm surprised he didn't have her use a fake name. Well, I think he's also a fucking idiot. That's good. As we'll see. So I think that was part of it.
And they checked in with him using an alias. So that's fucking weird. He used the alias Carl Graham and she used her real name. So that was already what's going on. I'm surprised he didn't have her use a fake name. Well, I think he's also a fucking idiot. That's good. As we'll see. So I think that was part of it.