Elena
๐ค SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
Now, the problem, at least for Julia, was that this child in question had just been claimed as Bobby Dunbar by the Dunbar's. But Walters is still saying this is Bruce Anderson. It's not. Now, sensing a big story, the press in Louisiana just jumped on this opportunity. And they paid to have Julia brought to the city to examine this boy.
Now, the problem, at least for Julia, was that this child in question had just been claimed as Bobby Dunbar by the Dunbar's. But Walters is still saying this is Bruce Anderson. It's not. Now, sensing a big story, the press in Louisiana just jumped on this opportunity. And they paid to have Julia brought to the city to examine this boy.
So she went on an overnight train ride to get there and was brought to the Dunbar home.
So she went on an overnight train ride to get there and was brought to the Dunbar home.
Now, five different boys were presented to her for inspection. Oh, okay. Smart to do it that way. Exactly. Including the boy the Dunbars had claimed was Bobby. Yeah. Julia didn't recognize most of the boys, but when Bobby Dunbar, who they claimed was Bobby Dunbar, was presented to her, he had tears in his eyes and seemed upset. He refused to say whether he recognized Julia, which is strange.
Now, five different boys were presented to her for inspection. Oh, okay. Smart to do it that way. Exactly. Including the boy the Dunbars had claimed was Bobby. Yeah. Julia didn't recognize most of the boys, but when Bobby Dunbar, who they claimed was Bobby Dunbar, was presented to her, he had tears in his eyes and seemed upset. He refused to say whether he recognized Julia, which is strange.
And Julia, who was exhausted and very stressed out from travel, couldn't say whether that was Bruce. Which is like, I've never been in this situation. I can't imagine not recognizing my child. But again, who knows? Who knows? Maybe it was dark. Once again, I have never been under this kind of stress. Well, that's the thing. I have never been under this kind of situation. I am not in 1912.
And Julia, who was exhausted and very stressed out from travel, couldn't say whether that was Bruce. Which is like, I've never been in this situation. I can't imagine not recognizing my child. But again, who knows? Who knows? Maybe it was dark. Once again, I have never been under this kind of stress. Well, that's the thing. I have never been under this kind of situation. I am not in 1912.
I don't know what the lighting is even like there.
I don't know what the lighting is even like there.
I can't imagine, but I also can't imagine the circumstances that all this is happening under. So I'm going to keep my own opinion out of this because... There's nothing for me to say. I've never been in this position. So my opinion on this would be kind of moot at this point. Speaking from 2025 over here with great lighting and all the running water I could hope for. No. So there's that.
I can't imagine, but I also can't imagine the circumstances that all this is happening under. So I'm going to keep my own opinion out of this because... There's nothing for me to say. I've never been in this position. So my opinion on this would be kind of moot at this point. Speaking from 2025 over here with great lighting and all the running water I could hope for. No. So there's that.
But she did ask whether this was the boy found traveling with Walters. But the lawyers in the room wouldn't answer her questions. Mm-hmm. Now, because she wasn't unable to identify this boy confidently or any of the children, really, everyone concluded that the entire test had been a failure. And that was it. Yeah. According to Tal McThania, quote, Julia begged for a second chance.
But she did ask whether this was the boy found traveling with Walters. But the lawyers in the room wouldn't answer her questions. Mm-hmm. Now, because she wasn't unable to identify this boy confidently or any of the children, really, everyone concluded that the entire test had been a failure. And that was it. Yeah. According to Tal McThania, quote, Julia begged for a second chance.
And the next day she was allowed to see the boy again and to look him over. Like actually, which again, like this boy just keeps getting examined.
And the next day she was allowed to see the boy again and to look him over. Like actually, which again, like this boy just keeps getting examined.
This time she felt more certain that it was her son. But her failure the night before was already national news. And none of the press wanted to correct any of the countless articles that had already been published celebrating Bobby's return to the Dunbar's. They wanted to stay with that story because that was a fun, heartwarming story. This is like a big old bummer.
This time she felt more certain that it was her son. But her failure the night before was already national news. And none of the press wanted to correct any of the countless articles that had already been published celebrating Bobby's return to the Dunbar's. They wanted to stay with that story because that was a fun, heartwarming story. This is like a big old bummer.
Now, just as they had since Bobby disappeared nine months earlier, the press controlled the narrative around the Dunbar story and they had decided the outcome for themselves. They did not want to hear anything else. They set about dismissing Julia's claims and they decided they were just going to portray her as an unfit mother.
Now, just as they had since Bobby disappeared nine months earlier, the press controlled the narrative around the Dunbar story and they had decided the outcome for themselves. They did not want to hear anything else. They set about dismissing Julia's claims and they decided they were just going to portray her as an unfit mother.