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Well, this is where it would have ended. Like, this is where that would have been the end. Like, wow, what a story. What a tale. That's crazy. But in 1999, Margaret Dunbar Cartwright died. One of Bobby's granddaughters, Bobby Dunbar's granddaughters, received a large scrapbook that had hundreds of articles about the case. And so she started digging into the family history. Margaret knew the story.
Well, this is where it would have ended. Like, this is where that would have been the end. Like, wow, what a story. What a tale. That's crazy. But in 1999, Margaret Dunbar Cartwright died. One of Bobby's granddaughters, Bobby Dunbar's granddaughters, received a large scrapbook that had hundreds of articles about the case. And so she started digging into the family history. Margaret knew the story.
She had had years of hearing it told by her parents and grandparents. She knew the story well, or she thought she did. But she said when she started digging deeper into the case, it became clear to her that the version of the story she'd heard her whole life might not have been as accurate as she'd been led to believe. So Margaret said of Julia, so Julia Anderson, this woman was telling truth.
She had had years of hearing it told by her parents and grandparents. She knew the story well, or she thought she did. But she said when she started digging deeper into the case, it became clear to her that the version of the story she'd heard her whole life might not have been as accurate as she'd been led to believe. So Margaret said of Julia, so Julia Anderson, this woman was telling truth.
She did have a son. And my heart hurts for Julia at this point, believing that this boy is her son. You know, it's really awkward because Leslie and Julia are in the same position. They're both missing children. Which is like... This is his granddaughter? Like, for her to come out and be like, yeah, like, we should have a space in our heart here for this woman as well?
She did have a son. And my heart hurts for Julia at this point, believing that this boy is her son. You know, it's really awkward because Leslie and Julia are in the same position. They're both missing children. Which is like... This is his granddaughter? Like, for her to come out and be like, yeah, like, we should have a space in our heart here for this woman as well?
Margaret's research eventually led her to Mississippi, where she sat down with Julia's two remaining children, Hollis and Jewel. This was in 2000. It turned out that Julia's family had also heard about the case their whole lives, but a very different version of events.
Margaret's research eventually led her to Mississippi, where she sat down with Julia's two remaining children, Hollis and Jewel. This was in 2000. It turned out that Julia's family had also heard about the case their whole lives, but a very different version of events.
Jewel's daughter, Linda, told Margaret, we knew that we had an uncle that had been taken by the Dunbar family in Opelousas, Louisiana. We always said kidnapped. We said they kidnapped him.
Jewel's daughter, Linda, told Margaret, we knew that we had an uncle that had been taken by the Dunbar family in Opelousas, Louisiana. We always said kidnapped. We said they kidnapped him.
Now, from Jewel and Hollis, Margaret learned a lot about Julia, and it painted a very different picture from the woman she was known really. She had only known from, like, legend and, like, really bad, disparaging newspaper articles.
Now, from Jewel and Hollis, Margaret learned a lot about Julia, and it painted a very different picture from the woman she was known really. She had only known from, like, legend and, like, really bad, disparaging newspaper articles.
Julia, according to her children and grandchildren, was a wonderful mother and an incredibly resilient woman who attended church every Sunday and contributed to her community whenever she could. It was clear to her children that no matter how strong she appeared to be to everyone around her, which she appeared to be very strong, Julia lived her entire life with a piece missing.
Julia, according to her children and grandchildren, was a wonderful mother and an incredibly resilient woman who attended church every Sunday and contributed to her community whenever she could. It was clear to her children that no matter how strong she appeared to be to everyone around her, which she appeared to be very strong, Julia lived her entire life with a piece missing.
And they said, Jewel said she always talked about Bruce, but she called him Bobby. She was always looking for him. Oh, wow. Now, everyone in the Rawls family knew about Bruce and the Dunbars, and they knew they lived only about 200 miles from one another. Which is not very far at all. But they also knew the Dunbars were a prominent, somewhat wealthy family with good social status.
And they said, Jewel said she always talked about Bruce, but she called him Bobby. She was always looking for him. Oh, wow. Now, everyone in the Rawls family knew about Bruce and the Dunbars, and they knew they lived only about 200 miles from one another. Which is not very far at all. But they also knew the Dunbars were a prominent, somewhat wealthy family with good social status.
They didn't want to cause any trouble. So Bruce would always just be a memory to them. at least until Margaret Dunbar Cartwright began conducting her research. Margaret Cartwright spent more than four years working on her genealogical project, sometimes working at basically full time on it.
They didn't want to cause any trouble. So Bruce would always just be a memory to them. at least until Margaret Dunbar Cartwright began conducting her research. Margaret Cartwright spent more than four years working on her genealogical project, sometimes working at basically full time on it.