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Eli Stark-Elster

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Up First from NPR
Where Kids Play

But something I would emphasize is maybe a sort of counterpoint to that.

Up First from NPR
Where Kids Play

I think we often emphasize what technology is doing to our children.

Up First from NPR
Where Kids Play

And this move into digital space, the fact that kids spend all this time on their phones and playing video games and so on, is often framed as something that they're being sort of tricked into doing by tech companies or what have you.

Up First from NPR
Where Kids Play

But I think when you look at the trend in human evolution and this desire kids clearly have to

Up First from NPR
Where Kids Play

build their sort of secret worlds away from us, I think a different picture kind of arises.

Up First from NPR
Where Kids Play

And I think the picture that arises is kids are using digital space as sort of the last frontier to get away from us.

Up First from NPR
Where Kids Play

They, from what we can tell, are driven to find spaces away from adults where they can spend time unsupervised with their peers doing what they want to do.

Up First from NPR
Where Kids Play

And in particular, playing in different ways in physical space that is now just far too difficult for a variety of reasons.

Up First from NPR
Where Kids Play

In digital space, though, adults really have no idea what's going on.

Up First from NPR
Where Kids Play

We have very little control.

Up First from NPR
Where Kids Play

And so they found this glass domain where they can do the same thing, but in digital space instead of physical space.

Up First from NPR
Where Kids Play

I think immensely important.

Up First from NPR
Where Kids Play

There's a lot of good data on trends in mental health, starting from when childhood autonomy begins to kind of decline.

Up First from NPR
Where Kids Play

And we see a very stark trend that different measures of mental health among children begin to decline at around the same time their autonomy becomes more and more restricted.

Up First from NPR
Where Kids Play

There's a study conducted by UNICEF every few years called the Innocenti study, where they track independent mobility in different countries, the amount of freedom kids have to

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Where Kids Play

move from place to place by themselves against measures of well-being.

Up First from NPR
Where Kids Play

And you see a very clear trend that greater mobility leads to greater well-being and vice versa.

Up First from NPR
Where Kids Play

So we have a lot of data suggesting that it's extremely important for kids to have these independent spaces away from us.