Elie Honig

So, you know, Sean, facilitation, I guess, is in the eye of the beholder.

Yeah. Could you tell us about the three? Let me take one of them right off the table, and I'm interested what Senator Van Hollen has told you. There is not a realistic scenario where Kilmar Abrego Garcia comes back to the United States, returns to his family in Maryland, and resumes his former life. I just...

Yeah. Could you tell us about the three? Let me take one of them right off the table, and I'm interested what Senator Van Hollen has told you. There is not a realistic scenario where Kilmar Abrego Garcia comes back to the United States, returns to his family in Maryland, and resumes his former life. I just...

Yeah. Could you tell us about the three? Let me take one of them right off the table, and I'm interested what Senator Van Hollen has told you. There is not a realistic scenario where Kilmar Abrego Garcia comes back to the United States, returns to his family in Maryland, and resumes his former life. I just...

Don't think that's possible politically, A, because the administration is so dug in, and B, probably legally, because the fact is he's not at this moment a green card holder, a legal permanent resident. He does not have a visa. He's not a citizen. So it's pretty easy to deport someone who doesn't have legal status here.

Don't think that's possible politically, A, because the administration is so dug in, and B, probably legally, because the fact is he's not at this moment a green card holder, a legal permanent resident. He does not have a visa. He's not a citizen. So it's pretty easy to deport someone who doesn't have legal status here.

Don't think that's possible politically, A, because the administration is so dug in, and B, probably legally, because the fact is he's not at this moment a green card holder, a legal permanent resident. He does not have a visa. He's not a citizen. So it's pretty easy to deport someone who doesn't have legal status here.

Taking that off the table, the first situation is where we are right now, what I call passive-aggressive resistance, where there continues to be this fight over what the definition of facilitate is, and it goes back up and down the chain. And ultimately, the administration goes, look, you may not like it, but you said facilitate.

Taking that off the table, the first situation is where we are right now, what I call passive-aggressive resistance, where there continues to be this fight over what the definition of facilitate is, and it goes back up and down the chain. And ultimately, the administration goes, look, you may not like it, but you said facilitate.

Taking that off the table, the first situation is where we are right now, what I call passive-aggressive resistance, where there continues to be this fight over what the definition of facilitate is, and it goes back up and down the chain. And ultimately, the administration goes, look, you may not like it, but you said facilitate.

What we're doing counts as facilitation, and we weren't able to get him back. Sorry. The courts have made clear they don't like that, but if they accept that, then we're going to end up in this sort of purgatory, and Kilmer Abrego Garcia is going to... remain in El Salvador. Scenario two is if the courts get a little tougher and a little more serious and a little more specific.

What we're doing counts as facilitation, and we weren't able to get him back. Sorry. The courts have made clear they don't like that, but if they accept that, then we're going to end up in this sort of purgatory, and Kilmer Abrego Garcia is going to... remain in El Salvador. Scenario two is if the courts get a little tougher and a little more serious and a little more specific.

What we're doing counts as facilitation, and we weren't able to get him back. Sorry. The courts have made clear they don't like that, but if they accept that, then we're going to end up in this sort of purgatory, and Kilmer Abrego Garcia is going to... remain in El Salvador. Scenario two is if the courts get a little tougher and a little more serious and a little more specific.

What if one of the courts, district court on up, it could go back up to the Supreme Court, says, okay, listen, you're playing games here with Facilitate. We need to be more specific. You are to request his return. You are to cut off funding for the prison that we're renting. You are to bring him back.

What if one of the courts, district court on up, it could go back up to the Supreme Court, says, okay, listen, you're playing games here with Facilitate. We need to be more specific. You are to request his return. You are to cut off funding for the prison that we're renting. You are to bring him back.

What if one of the courts, district court on up, it could go back up to the Supreme Court, says, okay, listen, you're playing games here with Facilitate. We need to be more specific. You are to request his return. You are to cut off funding for the prison that we're renting. You are to bring him back.

Then either the administration complies, which will bring us to scenario three, or the administration defies. And if the administration defies a direct order – look, I'm the last person to use constitutional crisis. I think it's a vastly overused term. But I think we're there at that point because my definition of constitutional crisis is when we don't have a playbook for what comes next.

Then either the administration complies, which will bring us to scenario three, or the administration defies. And if the administration defies a direct order – look, I'm the last person to use constitutional crisis. I think it's a vastly overused term. But I think we're there at that point because my definition of constitutional crisis is when we don't have a playbook for what comes next.

Then either the administration complies, which will bring us to scenario three, or the administration defies. And if the administration defies a direct order – look, I'm the last person to use constitutional crisis. I think it's a vastly overused term. But I think we're there at that point because my definition of constitutional crisis is when we don't have a playbook for what comes next.

And that brings us to our third scenario. If he comes back here, if the administration decides we're going to avoid that kind of showdown, we're going to bring him back, they're going to immediately look to begin and perhaps quickly conclude the process of deporting him anywhere other than El Salvador.