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Eliezer Yudkowsky

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Rationality: From AI to Zombies
Explaining vs. Explaining Away

I think that when physicists say there are no fundamental rainbows, the anti-reductionists here, there are no rainbows.

Rationality: From AI to Zombies
Explaining vs. Explaining Away

If you don't distinguish between the multi-level map and the mono-level territory, then when someone tries to explain to you that the rainbow is not a fundamental thing in physics, acceptance of this will feel like erasing rainbows from your multi-level map, which feels like erasing rainbows from the world.

Rationality: From AI to Zombies
Explaining vs. Explaining Away

When science says tigers are not elementary particles, they are made of quarks, the anti-reductionist hears this as the same sort of dismissal as we looked in your garage for a dragon, but there was just empty air.

Rationality: From AI to Zombies
Explaining vs. Explaining Away

What scientists did to rainbows and what scientists did to gnomes seemingly felt the same to Keats.

Rationality: From AI to Zombies
Explaining vs. Explaining Away

In support of this sub-thesis, I deliberately used several phrasings in my discussion of Keats' poem that were mind-projection fallacious.

Rationality: From AI to Zombies
Explaining vs. Explaining Away

If you didn't notice, this would seem to argue that such fallacies are customary enough to pass unremarked.

Rationality: From AI to Zombies
Explaining vs. Explaining Away

For example, "...the air has been emptied of its haunts, and the mind de-gnomed, but the rainbow is still there."

Rationality: From AI to Zombies
Explaining vs. Explaining Away

Actually, science emptied the model of air, of belief and haunts, and emptied the map of the mine of representations of gnomes.

Rationality: From AI to Zombies
Explaining vs. Explaining Away

Science did not actually, as Keats' poem itself would have it, take real angels' wings and destroy them with a cold touch of truth.

Rationality: From AI to Zombies
Explaining vs. Explaining Away

In reality, there never were any haunts in the air or gnomes in the mine.

Rationality: From AI to Zombies
Explaining vs. Explaining Away

Another example, what scientists did to rainbows and what scientists did to gnomes seemingly felt the same to Keats.

Rationality: From AI to Zombies
Explaining vs. Explaining Away

Scientists didn't do anything to gnomes, only to gnomes in quotes.

Rationality: From AI to Zombies
Explaining vs. Explaining Away

The quotation is not the referent.

Rationality: From AI to Zombies
Explaining vs. Explaining Away

It takes a strong mind, a deep honesty, and a deliberate effort to say, at this point, that which can be destroyed by the truth should be.

Rationality: From AI to Zombies
Explaining vs. Explaining Away

And the scientist hasn't taken the gnomes away, only taken my delusion away.

Rationality: From AI to Zombies
Explaining vs. Explaining Away

And I never held just title to my belief in gnomes in the first place.

Rationality: From AI to Zombies
Explaining vs. Explaining Away

I have not been deprived of anything I rightfully owned.

Rationality: From AI to Zombies
Explaining vs. Explaining Away

And if there are gnomes, I desire to believe there are gnomes.

Rationality: From AI to Zombies
Explaining vs. Explaining Away

If there are no gnomes, I desire to believe there are no gnomes.

Rationality: From AI to Zombies
Explaining vs. Explaining Away

Let me not become attached to beliefs I may not want, and all the other things that rationalists are supposed to say on such occasions.