Elise Hu

Oh my God, is that far?

That's right.

Show everybody!

Well, you guessed it, folks.

Jeff had indeed written down... Thank you, Brett!

...Barack Obama.

That was Oz Perlman leaving us all speechless at TED 2025.

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