Elise Hu
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Appearances Over Time
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And in it I had what I โ
called at the time.
It's a phrase that Garrett Hongo uses, word clouds.
They were just, you know, word stuff.
And it was what I had to show.
I had to show him something.
And so he had a legal pad and he thumbed through and he said, OK, well, here's this.
And then he wrote it out with line breaks.
And he said, see, you're writing poems, but you don't know how to break lines.
But that's what makes it a poem.
He was very kind when he said that.
And then he said, OK, go, go write some poems and don't come back until you have some to show me.
You said that he gave you a huge gift.
He took that cluster of words and he lineated it.
Yes.
How do you think he saw that?
You know, one of the things that he used to say was the poem will find its shape.
The line will find itself.
So he would say just start writing and you will see what the natural shape of this poem is, which was very mystifying to me when I first heard it.