Elise Hu

Plus, we did something we couldn't resist, a mini song exploder of sorts, breaking down one of the new songs on this album, which we then share in full at the end of the episode.

This is an episode with a lot of music, which you don't hear every day on this show.

The talk is first and then the conversation coming up after a short break.

That was Rishi Keshe Hereway's 2021 TED Talk.

When we come back, a conversation about how those ideas have evolved and a mini song exploder on one of his own songs.

Stick around.

Rishi Keshe, welcome back to TED Talks Daily.

We have just listened to your beautiful talk, where among many things, you made the case for empathy and discovery through attention.

And that talk I got to see in the audience, it came out five years ago now.

And since then, you have hosted hundreds of more conversations with artists, recorded your own music, scored music for film and television.

And now you have a new album out called In the Last Hour of Light.

Congratulations.

Wow.

A catalyst moment.

I love it.

I'm curious then, what has shifted for you in the past five years or so?

How has your approach to listening evolved?

You wrote in your substack, in fact, that you think of this new album as sort of a memoir, even.

And when you listen to the lyrics and the stories that you share about each song, it's clear why it can be seen as a memoir or experienced that way.

What makes this more of a memoir rather than just an album?