Elise Hu

There might be people looking at it, but you never get the chance to show them anything inside.

You have now built this whole album, a truly personal one, that is now out in the world.

So what are you hoping people will feel when they walk out?

Yeah, yeah.

And since this is a call to listen, you offered four principles of deeper listening in your talk.

Those principles are to stay open to new ideas, stop multitasking, engage non-verbally as well, and be careful to not make it about yourself.

Is there anything you would change or add today as guideposts for deeper listening?

Well, you are masterful at it.

And I have so enjoyed our conversation.

And thank you for being so thoughtful and present and open, not only in making your work, but also in speaking with us.

To everyone listening, the album is called In the Last Hour of Light.

It came out just yesterday, April 24th.

Hopefully after this conversation, you're going to hear it in a different light and we will leave you with the full song, Things Change Even Now.

Here it is.

And Rishi Keshe, thank you so much.

That was Rishi K. Shahirway at TED Monterey in 2021.

And later in conversation with me, Elise Hu.

Our conversation was recorded in April, 2026.

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And that's it for today.