Eliza Orlins

It's not, you know, the safest thing you can do is not bring your cellular phone, you know, especially a smartphone to any location where you could be tracked, you know, the, the, but furthermore, like there are these databases, these commercial databases, and now it's,

This is how they're circumventing needing warrants or needing any type of probable cause or reasonable suspicion to infringe on your rights.

But they are quite literally buying up these commercial databases and receiving your phone number, your email address, your family's location.

They're pulling up your driver's license, your water bill, your phone records.

It's all part of this massive surveillance network, even if you've done nothing wrong.

And unlike other agencies, you know, there's almost no transparency or accountability when it comes to ICE.

Well, so what they are doing, or at least what has been announced, is that they are going to be massively funding real-time surveillance.

So they're going to have these kind of centers where folks are there.

And if they have high-interest targets, they will be in real time tracking their social media, tracking them, trying to see where they are.

You know, they have license plate readers.

If you go through...

any, you know, in New York to pay tolls, they have, you know, they have cameras that click your license plate as you go through, easy pass, whatever, you know, and so folks are getting tracked in real time.

And, you know, they are building out this infrastructure to, to like really surveil people and track them in the moment.

Absolutely.

It definitely is.

And listen, it's not the first time.

It's not, you know, when post 9-11, as you and I remember, you know, the FISA courts, like basically the warrants that were issued were rubber stamped.

I think not a single one.

of the however many tens of thousands were that were requested was ever rejected and so they were able to do this kind of surveillance even if the warrant was just for show and now in a lot of ways those warrants are not even required you know i think so much of what we think of like the way in which the fourth amendment was written to prevent us from unlawful searches and seizures was

to protect us from physical searches.