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Elizabeth Ayoola

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NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Tax Season Scams and Identity Theft Red Flags, Plus a 401(k) and IRA Rollover Lightning Round

Two, how can I evaluate the performance of these previous employer accounts against, say, my current 401k employer-backed provider to see who is giving me the most for my money?

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Tax Season Scams and Identity Theft Red Flags, Plus a 401(k) and IRA Rollover Lightning Round

For example, T. Rowe Price, Vanguard, Fidelity.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Tax Season Scams and Identity Theft Red Flags, Plus a 401(k) and IRA Rollover Lightning Round

The listener has another question, but I say we tackle these two first.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Tax Season Scams and Identity Theft Red Flags, Plus a 401(k) and IRA Rollover Lightning Round

Now, Sam, the crux of the question is about a 401k rollover.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Tax Season Scams and Identity Theft Red Flags, Plus a 401(k) and IRA Rollover Lightning Round

Now, it's so easy to end up with multiple when you're changing jobs, but let's start with the basics.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Tax Season Scams and Identity Theft Red Flags, Plus a 401(k) and IRA Rollover Lightning Round

What's a 401k rollover?

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Tax Season Scams and Identity Theft Red Flags, Plus a 401(k) and IRA Rollover Lightning Round

Let's shimmy on over to part two of Doug's question, and it has to do with the perk their employer offers.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Tax Season Scams and Identity Theft Red Flags, Plus a 401(k) and IRA Rollover Lightning Round

Here it goes.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Tax Season Scams and Identity Theft Red Flags, Plus a 401(k) and IRA Rollover Lightning Round

After an individual reaches the IRS 401k pre-tax maximum for the year, my employer will continue to match the same contributions I make just to an after-tax investment, same fund, just after taxes.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Tax Season Scams and Identity Theft Red Flags, Plus a 401(k) and IRA Rollover Lightning Round

As I understand it, this is perhaps somewhat rare.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Tax Season Scams and Identity Theft Red Flags, Plus a 401(k) and IRA Rollover Lightning Round

My question is around what I discovered some colleagues have been doing.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Tax Season Scams and Identity Theft Red Flags, Plus a 401(k) and IRA Rollover Lightning Round

They max out their 401k pre-tax contributions, then start the after-tax matching account, but then twice a month they somehow convert those funds or realize the gains in such a way that they are only paying taxes for the two weeks the contributions are in the after-tax account.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Tax Season Scams and Identity Theft Red Flags, Plus a 401(k) and IRA Rollover Lightning Round

My understanding is that this is called something like an after-tax backdoor IRA, where the after-tax funds, once converted into some sort of IRA and the two weeks' worth of taxes are paid, grows tax-free.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Tax Season Scams and Identity Theft Red Flags, Plus a 401(k) and IRA Rollover Lightning Round

After I heard about this, my head started spinning, not only with the implications, but also with how time-intensive that must be to individually manage.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Tax Season Scams and Identity Theft Red Flags, Plus a 401(k) and IRA Rollover Lightning Round

Have you heard of this?

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Tax Season Scams and Identity Theft Red Flags, Plus a 401(k) and IRA Rollover Lightning Round

And is it a good idea?

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Tax Season Scams and Identity Theft Red Flags, Plus a 401(k) and IRA Rollover Lightning Round

Too complicated?

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Tax Season Scams and Identity Theft Red Flags, Plus a 401(k) and IRA Rollover Lightning Round

Or worth the trouble?

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Tax Season Scams and Identity Theft Red Flags, Plus a 401(k) and IRA Rollover Lightning Round

Well, Sam, now I want to ask you personally, do you think they are worth the headache?

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Tax Season Scams and Identity Theft Red Flags, Plus a 401(k) and IRA Rollover Lightning Round

In my opinion, yes, they are, because I don't want to give Uncle Sam any more of my money.