Elizabeth Berger

But yeah, that was one that was sort of part of the fabric pretty early.

It wasn't easy. I mean, we definitely, like, everyone... loved the show, but we also just kept coming back to, oh, but it feels right. And it really feels like we've told the story now so completely.

It wasn't easy. I mean, we definitely, like, everyone... loved the show, but we also just kept coming back to, oh, but it feels right. And it really feels like we've told the story now so completely.

It wasn't easy. I mean, we definitely, like, everyone... loved the show, but we also just kept coming back to, oh, but it feels right. And it really feels like we've told the story now so completely.

I kind of believe that you both. A few gray hairs.

I kind of believe that you both. A few gray hairs.

I kind of believe that you both. A few gray hairs.

I think Sterling, you nailed it, which was Nikki and that relationship and Vietnam as an engine for season three. We were like, that was huge for us. We were like, wow, we have now another season of the show that is going to feel completely different and it's going to sort of fuel the entire season.

I think Sterling, you nailed it, which was Nikki and that relationship and Vietnam as an engine for season three. We were like, that was huge for us. We were like, wow, we have now another season of the show that is going to feel completely different and it's going to sort of fuel the entire season.

I think Sterling, you nailed it, which was Nikki and that relationship and Vietnam as an engine for season three. We were like, that was huge for us. We were like, wow, we have now another season of the show that is going to feel completely different and it's going to sort of fuel the entire season.

And then it did get harder because we had those flash forwards, but it was a little smaller after that. It was a little bit more intimate in terms of most of the week to week stories and they became a little bit, more grounded without that element to it. And that was challenging.

And then it did get harder because we had those flash forwards, but it was a little smaller after that. It was a little bit more intimate in terms of most of the week to week stories and they became a little bit, more grounded without that element to it. And that was challenging.

And then it did get harder because we had those flash forwards, but it was a little smaller after that. It was a little bit more intimate in terms of most of the week to week stories and they became a little bit, more grounded without that element to it. And that was challenging.

So I think then it was sort of about, okay, like we don't have that kind of big thing sort of fueling these last couple of seasons.

So I think then it was sort of about, okay, like we don't have that kind of big thing sort of fueling these last couple of seasons.

So I think then it was sort of about, okay, like we don't have that kind of big thing sort of fueling these last couple of seasons.

I think, what's the one we opened, season four?

I think, what's the one we opened, season four?

I think, what's the one we opened, season four?

Yes, where we sort of follow new people for a premiere. A whole episode where the entire audience is like, who is this? Why is this? That was a lot of conversation. That was one where we were all just, and even Dan, like we would just be like, I don't know. Like, let's see what happens.