Elizabeth Day

And something that helped me almost overcome that, I'm not entirely there yet, was writing a bombastic male character in a novel of mine.

Hmm.

And I realized that if I could imagine this bombastic, unscrupulous billionaire man, then it was within me to lean into that.

And so I set myself this challenge of acting 5% more like that character.

Have you found that writing characters has helped you develop as a person?

The Devil Wears Prada, I refuse to believe it's 20 years since that movie came out, but apparently it is.

That's what the chronology of time tells me.

You were 38 when that movie came out.

So 20 years on now, I'm just really interested in how different you feel

Yeah.

Did you find it at all intimidating?

Given the success of the first movie, that idea of coming in with a sequel, do you have moments of self-doubt where you're like, am I funny anymore?

You probably can't tell us anything, but can you tell us anything about where The Devil Wears Prada 2 meets all of these legendary characters?

Well, what a privilege and a joy it will be for us all to watch it.

Let's start with your failures.

Your first failure is not being talented enough, these are your words, to be an actor or a singer.

Yes, that's so well put.

When I started this podcast, I honestly felt like I was learning a brand new language overnight.

Scripts, artwork, scheduling, tech.

Suddenly, I was the entire team and it was kind of overwhelming.