Elizabeth Day

I hear you.

You've spoken very warmly about your parents and the support that they've given you.

The work that you've put out into the world, do you think it's made you closer to them?

Remind us what happens in episode four.

When you say they knew about that, that's because you also are a survivor of sexual assault.

You work with a charity.

Why is that important for you?

I think it's so important that you do what you do with We Are Survivors.

And I think it has helped an enormous amount of people.

And I was thinking of you recently with Giselle Pellico and the book that she published and her famous quote, which is that she rebukes the shame.

The shame is not hers to carry.

And I think that your work goes such a long way in reminding men of that.

That sense that an imprint, as you put it, that your fear is that people can see it on you.

When you were going through that process with Baby Reindeer of being recognised all of the time and having your face staring at you from newspaper front pages, was there a sense of re-triggering?

Did it feel similar?

Shame and fame, did they feel similar?

Yeah, it's a release.

No.

And there's your work again.

The work is the salve.