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Elizabeth Jo

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99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

So that's pretty clear.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

So really what it's telling Congress is there are certain things you can do, like you can regulate, you know, commerce moving across state lines.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

You can tell persons, private entities to do things right to behave in certain ways.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

But you can't tell the states.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

to do things in ways that are treating them like they're your servants, essentially, right?

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

That's what the anti-commenteering clause means.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

And this idea has also been extended to the spending power, too.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

The federal government can certainly offer financial incentives to the states under Congress's spending power, which we find in Article 1, on the condition that the states do what the federal government wants.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

Now, it might seem, Roman, like this is

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

kind of similar to commandeering, right?

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

Like, well, I can't, you know, we want you to do something, here's some money.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

But the idea under federal spending authority is theoretically states have a choice.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

Yeah, they can say no.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

We don't want to do this.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

We don't feel like listening to your federal government.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

And because they have a choice, it doesn't raise the same problem.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

Except in some cases, the Supreme Court has said that if the choice is not a true choice, in other words, it's really deemed coercive,

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

that the spending power also can go too far in a way that is similar to the anti-commandeering principle, because you really are forcing the states in a way that they don't want to behave.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

And that's essentially why in 2012, the Supreme Court's decision upholding Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act, that was the reason that one portion of it was one in which the Supreme Court struck down the way that the ACA expanded funding

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

Medicaid, right, because it was offering the states money to expand Medicaid.