Elizabeth Phillips

Mm-hmm.

Dick Eastland, who passed away in the flood, and his wife Tweety.

Tweety and Dick.

Yeah, Tweety and Dick.

And then their kids help run it with them.

So this is what Ezekiel 33 6 says.

But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes someone's life, that person's life will be taken because of their sin.

But I will hold the watchman accountable for their blood.

And I think that is all of our charge as the responsible adults in the room to be the watchman and to protect kids, whether that's guarding their innocence from sexual abuse and predators or their physical safety.

You evacuate children, go to higher ground when there is a life-threatening flash flood warning.

And you know how that river floods.

So the Campaign for Camp Safety is now focused on research.

We're doing a national mapping exercise of what states have the worst lack of regulation versus what's a model state, for example.

So research and then advocacy, like passing the laws I mentioned, and then a Safe Summers Fund.

So to your question, are there good camps?

Yes.

There are some camps that do amazing... Think about camps for disabled children.

it's an opportunity for them to find people they relate with.

Well, yeah, and so one of my good friends, um, Catherine Wolfe, she runs a camp in Alabama called Hope Heals.

Um, her first book was Hope Heals.