Elizabeth Phillips

But the rape kits had tied his DNA to all these assaults.

And they're like, will you be a witness?

I'm like, hell yeah.

Called the right girl.

But in...

And then I was assigned a victim advocate, which was really ironic considering I had just become a certified crime victim advocate myself, because I was so far into all these disclosures, people telling me what had happened in their childhoods, and I wanted, I don't know why, I just needed a piece of paper to tell me that I was certified in something.

So I just got in that, and then I'm assigned one.

And we went through the criminal process, trial got postponed two times, and then the statute in Texas on that, the reason it was in statute is there's an obscure part of the statute in Texas that if a perpetrator has more than five victims, there's no statute of limitations, criminally.

Um, unfortunately, like, two of the victims dropped out after trial got postponed so much that they didn't have the five victims willing to testify.

So he's just outliving his life.

And, um, I came forward about that in the Senate committee hearing in Texas because I was so inspired by friends like Cindy Clemishire, who was a victim of Robert Morris, one of the largest megachurch pastors in the country out of North Texas.

Uh, she was 12 when he started abusing her.

And, uh...

We caught him finally in Oklahoma because of a loophole in statute there where it was like a frontier law.

So if you come through the state, commit a crime and leave, the statute of limitations doesn't apply.

And so they were able to get Robert Morris through that statute in Oklahoma.

And then a bunch of women were inspired by Cindy's story, came forward in Oklahoma about an Assemblies of God pastor, Joe Campbell, also from Missouri.

He was running a camp in Missouri.

Um... Holy shit.

Yeah.