The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
Um, so many people were confused, like, what's wrong with Trey?
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
He was, like, a straight-A student, football player, like, Trey was it.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
He was, like, the man.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
All the girls wanted to date Trey, like, all the boys wanted to be Trey, like... And then, phew, suddenly he's dead.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
Not so suddenly, actually.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
It was a slow decline.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
Uh, all horrible.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
And, uh...
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
Yeah, so he, uh... In his obituary, we wrote all those things that were great about him, and at the end, we said he was a Kanakuk Camps abuse survivor.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
Um... And a friend to other survivors he could help, and... Um... So, that was out there in the Dallas Morning News, and we started getting outreach from... You know, like, the Me Too movement?
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
I call this Kids Too.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
Because we kept getting all these calls about, um...
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
our family, we think our son might have been abused at Kanakuk.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
He's never talked about it.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
Or a direct victim reaching out.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
And I had to be really careful because... one thing we knew from the civil case is that Kanakuk would put PIs on the victims.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
And they would, like, pull their trash and surveillance them to get, like, you know, any evidence of homosexual behavior, drug use, and then use it against them in depositions.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
And all these victims I've talked to, like, so many of them are like, yeah, I was followed by a black SUV.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
Like, I thought Trey was just, like, getting schizophrenic or something.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
Like, I didn't... Not that I didn't believe him, I was just, like, skeptical.