Elizabeth Phillips

Like, you know, I'm still trying to process all of that at this point.

I'm like, I've heard this from therapists over and over again.

And he was like, Elizabeth, I didn't think that was real until I started meeting all these survivors.

And he's like, I just met with one in Missouri.

Like, again, what the Missouri is going on?

And she had no legs.

They cut off her legs.

Missouri.

No, not a Kanakuk victim, like just a satanic ritualistic abuse victim.

And so this guy, he was like, I didn't, I thought it was like,

You know, it's very dark, and he's seen a lot of darkness.

And he was skeptical until he started meeting these victims.

And he's like, it's very real.

I've talked to enough of them now to be convinced.

And I was like, well, here's what I know about what happened to Trey, and then there's these other victims.

Like, things carved in their leg and stuff.

the the carving those words that you mentioned uh i've seen it once um physically i mean personally seen it once um

traded other things to self-harm, but not that.

But yeah, I've seen one of them.

Yeah.