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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
There's a text I got of a cabin floating down the river with looked like 50 kids in it.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
Whoa.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
Yeah.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
And then it quickly escalated from Lila's missing to Lila's dead.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
And all these girls are missing.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
And so, like, I'm with my three kids and my family, and we, like, are sitting at the 4th of July parade as all of this is, like, coming through on my phone.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
And I'm like, oh, no, I need to reach out to a Navy SEAL friend I know that's based in Austin, see if they're on it.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
Like, what is going on?
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
And, you know, fast forward, 27 girls died at Camp Mystic during the flash floods in the Hill Country on July 4th.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
And it was completely preventable.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
So then I know this because I'm camp negligence girl at this point from everything I've uncovered about Kanakuk and the camp industry.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
The American Camps Association has been around for 115 years, and they're the main accreditation entity for the industry.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
There are also some smaller camp organizations that lobby for mostly exemptions and waivers, not child protection.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
So my head immediately goes to, and it's horrible to say this, but I just know what I know, and like, these girls aren't missing, they're dead.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
And it's not, it's the camp's fault and it's negligence.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
Like, just, you know, the pattern is there.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
I've been in touch with a dad from California whose daughter drowned at a day camp because the American Red Cross was fraudulently accrediting lifeguards.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
That came out in a Washington Post article.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
There's just, at every turn, the camp industry has had failures, and they've had 115 years to do better.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
But here we are with 19 suicides affiliated with the Keanukuk situation.