Elizabeth Smart

And it's knowing what love is, hoping to have love in your life, being able to feel love.

I mean, that is, I believe, why we are able to overcome everything.

Can you talk about when you're there?

So, you know, those moments where you're hearing your name and I have to imagine or you're seeing the helicopters, the hope, right?

So you have these visions of people coming to save you and the fuel that that gave you to be like, well, at least someone's looking for me.

Like there's probably a time limit on this.

So kind of the hope that it gave you, but then also after the helicopters, and there are no more helicopters, and no one is calling your name, what it's like to lose that little bit of hope and what that hopelessness feels like a little bit.

Because I always think about, you know, so much of what you're doing through Foundation.

Is because of these people who don't get the resources you do.

And one of the things that stuck out to me as we were doing this next episode was like what it must feel like to be there and to know because of the color of your skin or who you are or your family's socioeconomic state.

No one's going to come.

Yeah.

It was always a battle of emotion when it felt like I was so close and yet so far, because on one hand I did, I did just want to scream out and I wanted to say, I'm here, come and rescue me.

But at the same time, I was dealing with like this enormous level of fear where I felt like,

If I said something, I would be responsible for the death of someone else.

So that was terrible.

And then as soon as the helicopter would fly away or as the voices, I mean, they were never that close.

They were always pretty far away.

But when they would disappear completely, there was always just like a feeling of despair and hopelessness to think that I was kind of close.

And then, of course, as time went on and there became fewer and fewer airplanes and fewer and fewer helicopters.