Elizabeth Smart

I can't remember the reason they were— I mean, they just thought it was Richard Recy.

They just didn't think that it was this other guy who came to our house one time.

John Walsh from America's Most Wanted had become a huge support to my parents so my dad had gotten pretty close with him and my dad had told John Mary Catherine thinks she knows who took Elizabeth and we've gone down to the police station and we've had like a sketch artist come in and sketch this guy she thinks that's who it is and John was like well you gotta release it and they're like but the police don't want us to and so actually John

went on Larry King Live back in the day, and he actually released the sketch on Larry King Live.

Good for him.

Yeah.

He knew that was the name that Brian Mitchell was going by.

Hepzibah.

Hepzibah.

He had said while he was taking me up into the mountains that we were going to his wife.

And initially, when I heard that there was going to be a woman there, I was like, it's going to be fine.

I know.

Yeah, right?

Now you should tell them, find a woman with kids.

Yeah, it's a list.

Ending with man.

Yeah.

And so, like, initially I was relieved because I was like, nothing that bad can happen.

Plus, I mean, I could tell that he was older.

I feel like your brain...