Elizabeth Weise

to block without actually banning these?

Because if you just ban it, I mean, you might be subject to a lawsuit, like what's your basis?

And counties sometimes just come up with rules that can be so difficult or onerous or expensive that developers just say, okay, this county doesn't really make sense.

So the toxins is one you see a lot where a county will have a regulation that says,

You have to go out and test the groundwater to make sure these are not contaminating our groundwater.

And you hear that a lot in the meetings where everybody shows up.

The truth is, is that a solar panel does contain metals that if you were to ingest them would be bad for you.

However, those metals are part of the silicon.

They're part of the glass that make up the solar panel.

And so when I talk to scientists, MIT and other places, what the scientists have told me is really the only way that could work is you would have to grind up the solar panel and then

put the resulting dust into a strong acid bath, and then you might get those metals to leach out.

But otherwise, I mean, it's glass.

Things don't melt out of glass.

Birds are an interesting question because, yes, especially wind turbines can kill birds.

And the numbers between 140,000 to maybe as many as 700,000 a year

can be harmed by wind turbines and birds and bats both, actually.

But when you talk to people about this, and even like, you know, the Audubon Society, you know, they say the important thing is to remember that, I mean, that seems like a lot of birds, but it's nothing compared to the number of birds in the United States that are killed by outdoor cats every year.

And that number is estimated between 1.3 and 4 billion a year.

And also buildings, because birds fly into buildings.

And that's probably...