Ella Risbridger

And I think about that as the two kinds of ways people approach life, which is you can try not to make it into a fucking story, but it is already a fucking story.

And although the narrator of that poem says, I only meant the storm, nonetheless, there she is making it into a perfect crystalline poem about that moment where you decide something is never coming back

And I think a lot about, please don't make this into some fucking story, because as a memoirist, I'm always making things into some fucking story.

I'm trying really hard to get us to stop writing memoir, but it seems absolutely impossible.

I don't know if I'm self-obsessed or what, but it just dogs me.

I can't stop.

It's like every day, I'm just like, well, what if I wrote a little bit more about what's happening about my life, my feelings?

You know, I'm like, oh, I'll write a Christmas gift guide.

It's like, no, it's actually time to write a sort of think piece about December and my feelings and my sort of what I'm doing exactly.

Talk about my short, fat Christmas tree.

And I think part of that narrativisation, the ongoing, does come, for me, directly from Friends.

Because 10 series is a lot to watch characters learn and grow and become somebody different.

Chandler, I think, for me, is the real change.

Obviously, they all simmer down a bit.

Monica...

I would say she simmers down the least.

Monica and Ross... Monica gets way crazier.

the later seasons far less because I'm just like I can't be dealing with Monica I just can't be dealing with her Monica gets very little character development Ross I think also gets very little character development he just wants the girl and he gets the girl it's like will they won't they will they won't they will they won't they yes they will okay fine

Phoebe, I don't think she changes that much.

I think Phoebe simply is like, I will remain true to myself.