Ella Risbridger

And you really see her desire to practice and become better, to be as good as Rachel.

And I just think, A, it's lovely when Courtney Cox gets to do something funny

Because so often she's just truly funny.

Yes, exactly.

And to see her with the carrots threaded through her fingers to be like, is this sexy?

Is this what Chandler will like?

I think it's lovely.

And it's lovely that she's been trying to impress Chandler her whole life.

Do you think she genuinely likes it in the end?

I actually think Monica would be a very good recipe developer.

I don't know whether she loves being a chef.

We certainly never see her enjoying her work very much.

She's always unhappy at her job.

I guess the aiming for perfection can feel very chef-y.

But I also think she's a very vulnerable, soft person because she was brought up by an abusive feeder.

Let's call Judy what she is.

She is not abnormally abusive, but she is, you know, she's got some weird attitudes to food.

And most people with mothers can recognise that to some degree.

But there's that part where, you know, she's got those pies and she tries to offer them to Monica and Monica's decided to get thin so that she can seduce Chandler next year.

And her mum is like, oh, you should eat two full pies now.