Ellis Jones
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He had delivered wine and he had, he took out a Curtis's file and,
his birth certificate and had it pinned up on his wall at the house.
And his middle name was Ellis.
I never knew that we'd been friends for 10, 15 years.
Like I never knew his middle name was Ellis.
So I was like, I think I have to, I think I have to publish his book.
Like,
So I did.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's pretty much it.
And then after, once I held a copy of the book in my hand, I was just kept going.
Like, so most, most everything else that's on this table right now is written after 2022 when that book came out.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, for the YouTube, like if I'm talking just to you.
No, no, I'm just wondering why you mentioned Ellis.
Because that's the pen name, Ellis Jones, right?
Yeah.
So I was like, maybe I need to do something else right under my own name.
Right.