Ellis Jones

And then they brought me in as an apprentice and, uh, worked there for a while.

And, uh,

One day I'm hanging out.

And it was kind of the best environment because these dudes are kind of half criminals already, but they're squared away.

They're not out doing dumb crimes.

They're not driving around with a fucking ounce of weed in their car when they've had beers in their system or something.

They are living this adult lifestyle that I wanted to live as a teenager.

And they're doing it without getting themselves in trouble.

So they were really good role models for me in a way because they're not church-going good Christian people, but they're...

They're like navigating dereliction and depravity with dignity.

You know what I mean?

And so one day we're hanging out at the shop and I'm talking about skateboarding.

And the owner dude is like, dude, you really love skateboarding.

Like I'm talking about it.

I know all these nerding out on different stuff.

And he's like, you should like – you should think about maybe getting a job.

I don't know if like working in a tattoo shop is like for you, man.

Like you're still young.

You need to be out there skating.

And like maybe you should get a job –