Emily Fang
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Podcast Appearances
It's great to be with you, Scott.
So we met dozens of these people yesterday.
And this border is beautiful, Scott.
There are snowy mountains.
There are blue lakes.
But the Iranians we were meeting there fleeing war had come with terrible stories, like this man who we talked to just minutes after he'd crossed.
And like everyone we spoke with, he didn't want to give his name.
He's planning to go back to Iran where he's afraid of being arrested for speaking with foreign media.
in attacking Iran's government.
But people, including him, have said he's accepted he might die as well from this bombing.
And when he said that to me, he paused, Scott.
Like he almost couldn't believe what he was saying out loud because like so many Iranians we met, he feels really torn.
There are people who are against the bombing, and we met some of these Iranians yesterday.
But many Iranians tell us that while it is anguishing for them to see innocent civilians killed, it is even more anguishing for them to live under the current regime.
So the problem is there is a near total communications blackout in Iran.
We've been able to speak to some Iranians in and out of the country.
They tell us they're experiencing total uncertainty and thus fear about where these strikes are going to fall.
Human rights groups have counted a range of civilian deaths.
On the lower end, around 600 civilians killed to over 1,300 civilians killed yesterday.
according to another estimate.