Emily Jashinsky

And that line stood out to me because there's something from coming apart, I think, in that line of itself.

where when you're surrounded by so many other smart people who have this kind of conventional wisdom about God and Christianity, the book is organized where you first start thinking about God and then about Christianity.

Was that even just maybe culturally a brick wall that you kept hitting up against?

Was there any part of that difficult for you?

And that's where you started thinking again about the Big Bang.

The others, I mean, I was surprised by your explorations of paranormal phenomenon, near-death experiences, NDEs.

What was that like, again, as somebody who maybe sees a lot of those relegated, just again, pop-culturally, culturally to the zone of evangelical weirdos like myself, but coming to this from an aggressively rational perspective,

perspective.

I just really enjoyed that section of the book.

What was that like for you, Charles?

Hmm, that's very interesting.

A lot of and you address this a bit, a lot of people now would maybe say they would they would give the multiverse explanation.

And as we get higher tech, it seems like people are either going one direction or the other, they're going back to lower tech, or they're going higher, higher tech, and they're having all of these science fiction like explanations for creation.

Did you flirt with that at all, Charles, as you were I know you write about the multiverse and why that's not a satisfying theory from your perspective, but

Yes, that's well said.

There's this section at the end of the book where you read, I was born in 1943 and have witnessed 180 degree flips in the secular received wisdom on child rearing, marriage, divorce, euthanasia, abortion, acceptable public behavior,

responsibility for the consequences of one's actions and virtually everything about human sexuality.

Many of these changes do not appear to have been for the better.

Doesn't the evanescence of moral principles in the present age suggest a special need to seek moral bedrock?

And I just want to ask you about that in the context of