Emily Kwong

Anytime, Emily.

If you enjoyed this episode, short wavers, follow us on the platform you're listening to and check out our episode on quantum clocks.

We'll link it in the show notes.

This episode was produced by Burley McCoy.

It was edited by our showrunner, Rebecca Ramirez, and fact-checked by Tyler Jones.

Kweisi Lee was the audio engineer.

Beth Donovan is our vice president of podcasting.

I'm Emily Kwong.

Thank you for listening to Shortwave from NPR.

Hey, shortwavers, Emily Kwong here.

Real quick before the show, let's talk about public media.

Public media has been in the news a lot this year, and public media is what makes NPR shows like Shortwave special.

It's made for you.

When you listen to an NPR podcast, the people who make it aren't thinking about shareholders or advertisers.

We're thinking about you and delivering on a promise to help you understand the world a little better.

From its very founding in the U.S., public media was also meant to tell stories from underrepresented communities, providing cultural insight that expands your perspective.

At NPR, we still believe in all of that.

We always will.

But as of this fall, federal funding for public media, including NPR and local NPR stations, has been eliminated.

And now we're heading into an uncharted future.