Emily Maitlis

is that if Netanyahu decides that he doesn't need Trump anymore because Trump is not endorsing him, then he goes off and does what he wants in Lebanon and suddenly the whole MOU, the whole understanding, the memorandum is over and Iran decides that they can do what they want to do with the Strait of Hormuz again.

Look, if you take the long view, he clearly thought that Iran was going to be as easy as Venezuela.

So the question that I would ask now is what happens to Cuba?

Because at one point, we thought that that was where America would head next.

You know, in this sort of missionary zeal, ticking off of places he didn't like, making Marco Rubio sort of king of anywhere a bit naughty.

He's done Venezuela and he clocks that up as success.

I mean...

I think that's a complicated picture we probably have to return to at some stage.

Iran is an absolute mess and the Gulf states are in a more delicate position now vis-a-vis their relationship with America than ever before.

Does it maybe save Cuba from American invasion for a couple of months because he's lost his appetite now?

I mean, that's actually what you would be praying.

You'd be praying that

it's done enough to kind of put him off.

But maybe the opposite is true.

Maybe he thinks he needs to clock up a win because everyone is telling him, like, frankly, spelling out to his face that he's a complete loser now.

You'll have seen we're talking a lot about defence spending here at the moment.

We lost the Defence Secretary John Healey last week.

He left with a very strong message to the Prime Minister that he wasn't spending enough on defence to keep the country safe.

How do you view what's going on here?

I mean, look, there are very specific criticisms that came from John Healy, which were that Keir Starmer had made a pledge at Munich.