Emily Simpson

And it's so awkward because he can't answer the questions.

He looks around.

He can't.

It's like the most bizarre interview.

He was really bad at any of his alibi, any planning.

He just killed her.

And then after that, he had no plans.

right no idea what to say or how to act right how to cover up no and he didn't participate in any of the searches i feel like that's like a number one rule to if you're going to commit a crime where you have a body that disappears and then people are going to search for the body that if you want to cover up your crime you should involve yourself in the actual search yeah

When you're saying you had nothing to do.

And you should act sad.

And you should cry.

Yes.

And not pull out a bunch of money.

And you should answer questions.

When you don't want to answer questions and you don't want to give any information and you don't want to comply with the police, file for divorce.

So then in 2010, about a year after the first interview, detectives try and question Charlie again.

Now he's five years old.

He was much more reluctant to answer questions this time around, saying he couldn't talk about Susan or camping because he's keeping secrets.

So now we know at this point that there's been conversations in front of him.

He's probably been...