Emily Simpson

Yeah.

He, I don't know if he, I'm speculating, but it looks as if maybe he had a stroke or something.

He has trouble talking.

It sounds like you can tell, you can see that the 20 years of his son being in prison and being convicted of being a murderer and also the devastation of the other family and just everything that he's dealing with as a father just completely devastated this man.

Like he is, you can see it physically physically.

No, he was very thin.

And his voice was different, which made me think that maybe he had had a stroke.

I don't know.

Right.

And then they also interview Tori's mother.

I don't know.

She just seemed delusional to me.

It was just very much like what a sweet boy is and what a nice boy is and how he was always such a great boy and he's always such a sweet boy.

And I'm like... Oh, that murder.

I just... I had a hard time with her.

But I thought maybe she should have just declined the interview and just not done that.

But...

All right.

So anyway, back in September.

So now we're to September 27th.