Emily Turner

It was kind of Eileen in her own words.

It sort of is infamous.

And there was something very kind of captivating and, dare I say, sort of charismatic and enigmatic about Eileen.

And in doing the research, it was quite clear that there was a pretty like black and white view that people seemed to come on side.

It was either she's a kind of cold-blooded murderer or she's this kind of hapless victim.

And I guess as a filmmaker, that's always quite attractive because as is so often in life, the truth kind of comes somewhere in the middle and she's such a sort of contradiction.

So the kind of original kind of germ of the idea for making this film was we got access to an Australian artist called Jasmine Hurst who had...

done an interview with Eileen as a result of a 10-year relationship of writing to each other and that had never been I think had never been seen before and it was such an interesting and sort of in many ways strange interview because it was a with a friend and she was yeah it was kind of Eileen in her own words and I went on this huge journey with how I felt about Eileen from from watching that interview and seeing a really human side of her after the rapes that's a mess up in it

To, you know, watching her on the stand in the only trial she had where she speaks in incredible detail about sexual assault.

It's really harrowing to, you know, the interview with Jasmine where she talks and almost starts laughing about the murders.

And I sort of would catch myself thinking, oh, well, I've changed my mind.

Last week I thought this and now I feel like that.

And I really wanted the viewer and the audience to kind of have a similar journey.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think her first sexual assault was as a child.

And, you know, as a she she left home after having given birth to to a son when she was 14.

And I think that first year of being a sex worker or the number of sexual assaults she experienced within that year, I think is sort of in the almost 20, according to her account.

I think for sure that's a kind of take on it.

But the argument against that is lots of people are victims of a huge amount of crime and not very many people go out and, you know, kill in the sort of violent way that she did.